Message from @Lemmesmash

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2019-02-20 22:05:50 UTC  

all of his policies point to that fact

2019-02-20 22:05:56 UTC  

Socialism is when most of the economy is controlled by the government

2019-02-20 22:06:03 UTC  

Bernie does not support this

2019-02-20 22:06:07 UTC  

that's his goal and aspiration

2019-02-20 22:06:18 UTC  

He never said that

2019-02-20 22:06:57 UTC  

literally wants universal healthcare, college education, and other stuff all paid for by the american taxpayer

2019-02-20 22:07:17 UTC  

That's still not most of the economy

2019-02-20 22:07:31 UTC  

He does not want the government controlling the economy

2019-02-20 22:07:40 UTC  

that's what those policies infer

2019-02-20 22:08:01 UTC  

Really?

2019-02-20 22:08:47 UTC  

Healthcare and College is only a tiny part of the economy

2019-02-20 22:09:39 UTC  

he wants more and more regulations on everything which means the government would be taking hold of the economy.

2019-02-20 22:09:48 UTC  

No

2019-02-20 22:09:57 UTC  

more regulations don't mean taking control of the economy

2019-02-20 22:10:12 UTC  

that is the nature of regulations

2019-02-20 22:10:27 UTC  

That's like saying Donald Trump wants to deport every single foreigner

2019-02-20 22:10:40 UTC  

Regulations do not mean taking control of the economy

2019-02-20 22:10:53 UTC  

but that's what happens BECAUSE of regulations

2019-02-20 22:10:56 UTC  

He has never said that he wants the government to control the economy

2019-02-20 22:11:10 UTC  

not in those words but his policies say socialism

2019-02-20 22:12:17 UTC  

how can you defend policies that mean that you, the american taxpayer will be paying for EVERYONE else's college and healthcare, and medicaid etc.

2019-02-20 22:12:35 UTC  

He's a real nice dude that's how

2019-02-20 22:13:07 UTC  

Heyo

2019-02-20 22:13:12 UTC  

i just think the facts are being overtly ignored here that's all. theres no other way to describe sander's political stance than socialist

2019-02-20 22:13:21 UTC  

Do you not know the difference between Social Democracy and Socialism?

2019-02-20 22:13:33 UTC  

Sanders is more like an average Euro-style social democrat than a socialist

2019-02-20 22:13:35 UTC  

Sanders supports the Nordic model

2019-02-20 22:13:51 UTC  

None of the Nordic countries are socialist

2019-02-20 22:14:19 UTC  

The Nordic countries are pretty diverse politically

2019-02-20 22:14:35 UTC  

literally the definition of social democracy includes the phrase "a socialist system of government" achieved by democratic means which just means the people decide to be socialist

2019-02-20 22:14:39 UTC  

Socialist means the economy is mostly a command economy

2019-02-20 22:14:43 UTC  

Like Norway vs Denmark vs Sweden

2019-02-20 22:15:04 UTC  

That is misleading

2019-02-20 22:15:11 UTC  

Here is the correct defination:

2019-02-20 22:15:13 UTC  

"Social democracy is a political, social and economic ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal democratic polity and capitalist economy."

2019-02-20 22:15:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/536759048985640993/547904105062858763/image0.png

2019-02-20 22:15:31 UTC  

Democratic socialism is socialism that’s democratic

2019-02-20 22:15:34 UTC  

Sanders wants America to be more like the Nordic countries

2019-02-20 22:15:38 UTC  

Which are not Socialist

2019-02-20 22:15:44 UTC  

Social democracy is democratic socially-minded capitalism

2019-02-20 22:16:40 UTC  

socialism that's decided by the people. people decide to be socialist. social democracy is a gradual transition to 100% flat out socialism