A bit crude I know, but observe the bumps, they are "warm" periods.

Bear in mind there is a lot of regional variation, for example, Greenland, it actually used to be a lot warmer.

That is to say most the last 10,000 years in Greenland were significantly warmer than it is now.

The if we go way back, we see that this whole global warming thing could just be a blip anyway before we go back into another ice age.

That'd be neat

The ice age was kinda cold, I think most of Europe and America were permafrost or tundra, with glacial features.

I’m not sure if that’s an argument to ignore climate change

Support global warming, avoid the ice age?

what? That the earth has done this plenty of time without humans and it always recovers?

Basically the Earth has a cycle where we will freeze again whatever we do, the entire global warming since the 1600s is barely 10% of the change caused by an ice age.

too bad there's like no sources in any of these graphs

Most of the mid-term ones are based on ice core data, the longer term ones are based on rock data, and the modern ones on recorded observations.

This is a fun one.

It shows how the cycle has got more extreme, and the earth has got colder, over the last 5 million years.

But this doesn't show how humans are not aiding it

I think my point is that humans should do more because otherwise the ice age will still stuff everyone.

All the global warming we have managed so far is about +2 degrees, but an ice age drops us by around -8 degrees, up to -10 max.

My easy bake will keep me warm through the ice age <:PepeIcecreamSundae:475769244680847365>

Therefore, global warming should be continued for at least 400 years more to counterbalance the ice age and keep the world warm.

freshavocado brilliant young man

climate change is indeed real

but it's cooling down not warming up

And we are not the cause of it

The ice age isn't due to start for around 3000 years, don't worry too much.

There are "mini" ice ages inbetween, which are far less extreme.

Giant meteor will happen way before that

social democracy is just a name for a mixed economy tbh

@Lemmesmash @Obungus America is a mixed economy

every country on earth is, almost

just depends how *mixed* it is

countries in EU mostly, even Sweden etc

America, UK are all mixed but more free economies than other countries across the globe, such as countries in Africa are far less free

by free I mean closer to capitalism.

That’s something I would say is mostly accurate

socdems =/= demsocs

yep

because dem soc isn't real

what

yes democratic socialism is a complete contradiction