I see your point, but it's not very strong. You're not happy with FB's size and want them to be more regulated by the state, but can't clarify exactly what your criteria is.

Again it comes down to choices and our little negotiations in our heads , do I use Facebook or Gab? Facebook gives me reach, but Gab gives me political freedom... We make these choices as individuals and most prefer reach to political freedom for some strange reason

@Jerm nope cathy newman... I am concerned about the power Facebook has over free speech and am not convinced that free market theory will address this adequately

@Tom_Servo FB only has influence over free speech on its own platform.

@Jerm sorry unneccessarily rude - being said with a smile on my face

Also, free speech does not exist.

That's the first problem with the arguments around free speech.

People need to define it.

You aren't allowed to speak smack about my fiance in my home. Therefore, your free speech is curtailed.

You can't shout "bomb!" in a place. No free speech there either.

plane*

A business newspaper won't publish my cartoons about sports. No free speech there either.

if a printer refused to print your newspaper despite your willingness to pay then this would be comparable

A printer doesn't have to print your newspaper.

your house is not vital to public discourse

so no problem

It's not your right to get their business.

@Jerm, I agree, you will chase someone out your home and that is your right, but you should not be able to fine/arrest someone for offending your fiance

if printers had their own TOS, and refused to publish the Rapport because they were carrying one of your cartoons

Let them.

Like I said, it's not your right to get somebody's business.

back to work for me....

As a matter of interest, when last have you changed your mind on an issue?

any issue

Plenty.

i think this convo is getting out of hand.....

That's why I'm not longer in the mainstream anymore. 😂

no longer*

tone is lost in text....

I forgot what it feels like to work since discord

not trying to be rude

I need to get back. I've done my quota of Discord for the week. haha

@Tom_Servo I know what you're saying. I speak better verbally. Watch my interview with Renaldo and you will see how I speak. I hate text.

Friends, please debate. This is why we are in this chat room. Remember that we're on the same side, albeit a few minor differences here and there.

We're like light going through a prism. We all slot into different beams of light, but all on the same side.

can one of you social media famous guys run a poll on who should be NPA, Dali or Thuli

I should be

@Jerm boer soek n plaas cartoon....love it!

a quick hit and run.

Do you think the media are empowering Afriforum in the same way they did Julius Malema ?

Even though they are being fairly one sided and critical - is the long term effect going to be an increase in support and donations?

Ultimately should Afriforum be wewlcoming this, and perhaps even leaning into it?

remember initial reporting on JM was very negative, only softened more recently

to me it feels the media criticizes Afrifrom a lot (in some cases even plays with words to make them look bad), so not sure how that empowers them?

like this:

https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/how-afriforums-expropriation-list-devastated-two-farmers-20180817