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You mean, English Samurai?
Cavalry was fairly common, knights are good shock troops OR good ground units
Funny story in a lot of conflicts only the knights would survive, so when you'd capture them, you'd sell them back, it was a sign of respect not to kill a knight and not treat him poorly in captivity.
Neat
Knights are worth a shot ton of money.
There's also chivalric warfare. Another knight touches your knee? Universal sign of surrender, can't kill him. @Deleted User
Yup.
Shit was surprisingly unbarbaric.
Cavalry became more common because the people that were creating the “discourse “were usually family members of the Calvalry, since knights and the educated beurocrats were both younger sons of lords , and it was in good form to hype up your brothers accomplishments on the battlefield, hype up your family name. This also shifted focus away from arming /training the infantry of your armies, for fear that if you taught your infantry how to kill enemy knights, they might eventually try to kill you when the when the peasant infantry got upset at your mistreatment of them. So what happened was a sort of arms race, with each sides knights continuing to bulk up themselves, the size of the horses, and their combined armor in order to attack other knights, since infantry couldnt be allowed to, while the infantry was able to fight other infantry because they both sucked equally
It's mainly a surrender out of self-interest though. Because the ransom you'd get out of a knight, who was basically guaranteed to be a landowner, would have probably been very healthy.
I realize that is a sort of long paragraph, but we just talked about it in class and I found it real interesting
Yeah and rich lol.
Eh Rich is relative
Like, a landowning knight is probably gonna be well off, but there's a chance he's like... a boonies knight. Not as well off as most others, you know?
That's fair.
Knights actually weren’t likely to inherit, because they were second or third sons. Most of the times the first son got everything, and your second or third son was sent to your neighboring lords household to be a knight in his retinue (strengthening ties between the two lord ships), or you sent him to the church to get educated. If a knight Got land, it would be gifted from the Lord his father sent him to, not from his father
Just painted my room :~}
Well there's many kinds of estates.
Like
It's not unrealistic that a knight would become owner of a farm because the previous owner died with no heirs and it defaulted back to the local feudal lord, and the lord would rather give it to the knight than take responsibility for it.
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Yeah, your Lord would give you land, I was just saying that as a knight you weren’t likely to get it from pops, since first sons don’t become knights they become lords
Ah yeah true enough.
There's also the matter of *where* are these knights?
Are they members of a knightly brotherhood like Templars or Hospitaliers, or are they people who happen to be knights but are for all intents and purposes, still citizens of their own lands?
Because that's gonna have a dramatic effect on what kind of social status they can pull.
That's the right question to ask.
I don’t know much about Knightly brotherhood’s, this class covers the entire history of warfare so we don’t get a lot of time to talk about any one particular system,so I didn’t even consider the fact such brotherhoods existed
What
Well these knightly brotherhoods were semi to fully autonomus players in medieval politics.
At some points in history you can consider the knightly brotherhoods independant states in their own right.
Teutonic Knights existed all the way until the napoleon era.
Napoleon kicked them out, but you get the idea.
To the point the catholic church was terrified of the Knights Templar because they set up a money moving trading system that for the first time in history proved that another organization could be as rich as the Church.
Dang, what did The church do about them?
Mostly slandered them.
