You can't have both

Nah, it's like all the gays separate and make their own country.

And you can.
I mean look at Sparta.

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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/88963633/Extract%20Kebab.jpg

Like, modern gay is weak and socialist.
But in previous societies it's been used to strengthen nationalism and military spirit.

Open an orphanage there and make bank

Gather all the fags together and burn them for energy

@Chancellor Well sparta was strong because you were forced to have military training at an extremely early age in order to become as strong as possible.

@Dangerlurking That plus eugenics and hyper militarization.
But they were gay as shit, and the homosexuality was utilized to empower the military culture.

What the fuck

https://discord.gg/fTMC8

They also had an entire designated slave population solely for farming

Fucking Kekistan

That's another thing.
Citizens did nothing but train for combat.

All non combat roles were done by a serf underclass.

So women and slaves?

Mostly slaves.

Women bred
Citizens fought
Slaves farmed

Women were for wives.
To maintain fitness, prepare the house and keep their husbands in the best condition.
Also child rearing.

Early pseudofascism

This was basically essential since the Spartans gave their slaves a fair bit of rights.
So they got really uppity.

The whole system starts falling apart because you give people that desire rights badly some rights

Look at the soviet union

People desire freedom.

But the more you give the more they demand.

Meaning the best system is one in which people think they are free while being drained of resources.
See: Democracy.

A gov without rights is easier to manage, but people eventually force the gov to give them rights or they will start violent uprisings.

@Dangerlurking

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And once people have rights they start doing stupid things like surgically altering themselves into genderless aliens, or vote for Bernie sanders.

@Verm I don't get what you are trying to convey

He's implying you're a Molyneaux-esque ancap.

^

At least I don't shout "NOT AN ARGUMENT"

You don't?

It's really fun, especially when they're not arguing with you.

"I'm kinda leaning towards the new star wars movie but I'm up for seeing pretty much anything..."
"NOT AN ARGUMENT"

What do you mean?