Message from @Indigo

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2018-12-12 05:44:27 UTC  

Ah, that's fair, I kinda thought you were suggesting that as something to add to the article related to article titles 😃

2018-12-12 05:44:28 UTC  

Trying to pre-empt feminism on the critiques it will make will make the article miles long, there's no end to the logical hoops they jump through to discredit anything

2018-12-12 05:45:18 UTC  

Title: An Issue of Education

Introduction: Boys on average get lower grades in school compared to girls. This is almost universally true. There are several ways in which boys have particular issues with regard to schooling as compared to girls that cause this gap. What can be done about those issues? Well, it's complicated. There are some things that appear to be solvable or at least mitigated by school system, but some of the differences seem intractable, and everything is mired in politics. What follows is a summary of boy's issues with schooling, how those are being addressed, and hopefully a little of why those issues should be important to you.

2018-12-12 05:45:26 UTC  

..
I think that's improved

2018-12-12 05:45:30 UTC  

but probably still has problems with it. Got another objection for me to fix, folks?

2018-12-12 05:45:50 UTC  

Any other suggestions on titles is welcome if I can turn it into something concrete

2018-12-12 05:46:03 UTC  

Does the word "boys" really need to be in the title to make it specific enough?

2018-12-12 05:48:50 UTC  

Yes, people could think that it is about the identity politics mired in the educational system

2018-12-12 05:49:00 UTC  

I mean, it is

2018-12-12 05:49:07 UTC  

Oh

2018-12-12 05:49:25 UTC  

Right, you mean title IX-like bullshit

2018-12-12 05:49:32 UTC  

I meant

2018-12-12 05:49:32 UTC  

ah

2018-12-12 05:49:37 UTC  

Yeah

2018-12-12 05:50:23 UTC  

Is "An Issue of Boys' Education" better?

2018-12-12 05:51:19 UTC  

I feel at that point a different wording entirely would be ideal, but as I said I'm really drawing blanks

2018-12-12 05:53:32 UTC  

"Boys Behind in School" perhaps?

2018-12-12 05:53:46 UTC  

"Our boys and how we are preventing them achieving in school"

2018-12-12 05:53:53 UTC  

But that's a bit long perhaps

2018-12-12 05:53:56 UTC  

definitely

2018-12-12 05:54:11 UTC  

Long titles are generally better

2018-12-12 05:54:30 UTC  

And the truth is not all of this is about preventing boys achieving, (an active action) but rather much of it is a passive one

2018-12-12 05:54:49 UTC  

And that is the perfect length for a title

2018-12-12 05:55:08 UTC  

Hrm, okay, I'll accept being wrong on that point

2018-12-12 05:55:53 UTC  

"Our boys and how we are ignoring their worsening performance at school" ? That's more passive

2018-12-12 05:56:13 UTC  

"ignoring their worsening", ouch.

2018-12-12 05:56:14 UTC  

That doesn't have that urgency to it

2018-12-12 05:56:52 UTC  

Eh, that's correct grammar

2018-12-12 05:57:02 UTC  

Titles must evoke emotions

2018-12-12 05:57:19 UTC  

I agree it doesn't have the same urgency to it.

2018-12-12 06:01:05 UTC  

It is a bit of an interesting thing since we don't know for sure that boys' performance in school is worsening

2018-12-12 06:01:08 UTC  

"Our boys and the dismal state of their education system" "Our boys and the apathy of an education system that lets them down"... I'm kinda hung up on the "our boys and" thing lol, I like that opening

2018-12-12 06:01:12 UTC  

Nor is it universally ignored

2018-12-12 06:02:02 UTC  

Eh, *some* embellishment isn't a bad thing

2018-12-12 06:03:10 UTC  

"A Closer Look at Boys Lagging in School Performance"

2018-12-12 06:04:27 UTC  

I do feel that saying 'our boys' is better than just boys, it puts the reader in a position of ownership of them

2018-12-12 06:05:10 UTC  

it does

2018-12-12 06:06:11 UTC  

It is also a homophone when at the beginning of a sentence though

2018-12-12 06:06:35 UTC  

depending on sentence structure

2018-12-12 06:06:56 UTC  

"Our boys and" is fine, but "Our boys falling behind" isn't

2018-12-12 06:07:56 UTC  

So I'm somewhat reticent to say "at Our Boys Lagging"