Message from @Indigo
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I guess I just feel the point of the gender equality symbol was that the "equal" is in the center of the logo. Here it's in the bottom left
Not as obvious
Ar least don't put it in another circle. In a square it may work better
A man on Twitter tried to start a conversation about older women abusing young boys - and the response was for everyone to start bullying him and attacking him. He didn't even put it in strong terms, but he was instantly accused of 'derailing' conversations about girls being hurt by men. https://www.reddit.com/r/SupportforMen/comments/alyxmc/male_survivor_who_tried_to_start_a_conversation/
The original tweets, starting from Jan 6: https://twitter.com/suaveyoung50/status/1081716484378972160
And here we have an attempt to silence him.... by accusing him of trying to silence girls: https://twitter.com/tdouble_u/status/1081790450716065792
Notice how the attempt to shut him down got more retweets.
"it's derailment" give me a fuckin break.
Feminists: *only cares about females*
Men: "what about males?"
Feminists: reeeEeeeeEEEEEEEE
I mean, people give feminism a bad reputation
I think it's important not to overgeneralise
until feminist start recognizing the hatred and bigotry within their own ranks and start doing something about it I feel no qualms with holding the whole movement responsible for its worst parts
they have no internal checks at all, so the whole concept of 'not my feminism' is bullshit until they hold their own accountable
Feminists can't all speak for each other
no, but they can at least speak up against hatred in their own ranks
I've never seen a feminist hold another accountable for spreading hate
All or most of the feminists who wield power and infest institutions and academia are hateful
I'm willing to speak against hatred among feminists
But do you hold any power
Do you make legislation or policies
Like the presidents and top members of NOW
And other feminist organizations
have you, ever, had a conversation with another feminist about the fact that some feminist messages are hateful or promote hatred
just anyone, has the conversation ever come up, have you been apart of or seen anyone in a feminist group speak with any sort of self awareness or questioning about whether something might be of questionable moral standing
because I haven't, and I've looked
and its the most disturbing thing to me about 4th Wave Feminism
and I don't mean any accusation or insult... just have you ever seen anyone question 'the movement' in any form?
but heres the big question... would you feel SAFE questioning it yourself? in public forum? if you brought up any sort of doubt or criticism would you feel safe saying it?
So wait you've never seen anyone question or have a go at feminism?
Online or irl
not someone that identifies as a feminist
when speaking to other feminists
Oh fair enough, yh that makes sense they don't go out their way to shut extreme feminists down
internal debate is discouraged and ostrasized in my experience
NOW stood by the lady that wrote SCUM.
Exactly.
And I bet they support Bobbitt, et al.
Oh, a lot of feminists protested her even being tried on a court. They threatened to cut off a hundred penises - from what I've heard
And when I say NOW supported the SCUM lady, I mean they called her a great feminist and smuggled one of her manuscripts out of the mental hospital.
As in - the leader of the local chapter personally visited her and snuck it out.