That's unlikely, but I wasn't aware of the disparity

Infant circumcision causes the brain to undergo trauma

Look it up

It must not cause autism but worsen the already afflicted child

I know it does

But that having an effect on how autism is doesn't add up. You would need to show a comparison with countries that dont usually do it. Also, the US tends to overdiagnose and overmedicate its children.

I am not at all comfortable with the idea that autistic children should be aborted on principal. It seems abhorrent.

To me it does too, tbh, but parents should have that option in severe cases if it becomes identifiable, I think

Parenthood should be based on knowledge of what you are signing up for whenever possible

Ideally they should, but let's be really honest here - killing off all the serious autistics is what I call 'a polite genocide'. And it would not stop at the serious ones. Like Downs in certain countries, we would be all but wiped out.

Can it really be considered a genocide when no one is killed?

If we talk about selecting for race or sex, eye or hair colour I would agree, but these things aren't disorders

And I doubt such a screening method would be advocated for mandatory screening and elimination. I'm sure we'll still be blessed with remarkable autistic people as we are today

I'm struggling to think of a way to put this that won't start a huge argument.

But I think that saying nobody is killed when an abortion happens is one of the most disturbing and disingenuous arguments that has ever existed.

And I'm sure that you may disagree. But I kinda have work and I'm very tired of the whole debate.

I'm sorry I upset you

It's fine. I'm actually just trying not to upset you actually.

I honestly think there's a lot of Millue language around this debate and it gets incredibly emotional. I think I'll opt out for now, honestly.

Ok, no worries, we don't have to agree on everything mate

I think sterilization would be better than genocide

but aborting when it's known the baby will have some sort of defect is the most ideal

honestly we need more abortions in general

this world is too overpopulated

that and automation is going to render most jobs obsolete in 20 years anyway

though, lets face it

those in power will commit mass genocide when that time comes anyway

We're all going to be up against the wall

I’ve seen people planning or hoping for a genocide against people that are circumcised. It’s scary, we didn’t choose the mutilation.

what's their logic?

Honestly I've been involved in men's rights quite a while and I've never seen that >.< where did that happen ?

Yeah, obviously it's never going to happen. But I can see an intactivist making that argument. They are quite authoritarian.

I've looked (and posted) on the intactivists sub before, and honestly I don't see any of that

Do you mean outside of Reddit somewhere?

Well i've never heard the argument, but i have heard intactivists say people who perform circumcision should be killed off

I’ve seen Facebook groups like that. European men making fun of mutilated Americans and joking about killing them.

Oh, fuck europeans honestly

Well on people who perform it I've maybe seen but it's an extreme minority

That's why islam is taking over their countries LOL

and you get arrested if you make an offensive joke

no freedom of speech at all