Message from @InsaneCaterpilla

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2019-02-21 12:53:03 UTC  

So no children at all?

2019-02-21 12:53:29 UTC  

I think the odds of them ending up with someone nice are a lot higher than that!

2019-02-21 12:58:16 UTC  

@Bobby_Hill it's not fair to blanket all of one sex for the actions of a few, to say it 'will' happen is simply wrong. That doesn't mean people shouldn't try to give their children the best start in life and teach them about the world or how to be happy, but that's a very bleak outlook to have.

2019-02-21 13:00:17 UTC  

@InsaneCaterpilla I'm never having kids so I don't spread my disability ♿

2019-02-21 13:01:51 UTC  

So my opinion shouldn't really matter

2019-02-21 13:02:07 UTC  

That's fair enough as a personal choice, is it a high chance?

2019-02-21 13:02:32 UTC  

It's like rolling a D20

2019-02-21 13:03:05 UTC  

You might get a baby with mild autism or a baby who is borderline retarded

2019-02-21 13:03:26 UTC  

Idk these days with proper care they can indentify some problems in the womb and prevent the continuation of pregnancy in the event of things

2019-02-21 13:03:33 UTC  

I don't think they can for autism, though

2019-02-21 13:03:38 UTC  

Nope

2019-02-21 13:03:51 UTC  

That's just how it is

2019-02-21 13:04:43 UTC  

The spectrum goes from full tard - to normal person and everything in between

2019-02-21 13:05:44 UTC  

It also doesn't help that most girls with autism are very mild while boys tend to be more severe

2019-02-21 13:06:24 UTC  

I wonder if routine infant circumcisions has anything to do with this disparity

2019-02-21 13:07:00 UTC  

That's unlikely, but I wasn't aware of the disparity

2019-02-21 13:07:41 UTC  

Infant circumcision causes the brain to undergo trauma

2019-02-21 13:08:00 UTC  

Look it up

2019-02-21 13:08:35 UTC  

It must not cause autism but worsen the already afflicted child

2019-02-21 13:10:28 UTC  

I know it does

2019-02-21 13:12:16 UTC  

But that having an effect on how autism is doesn't add up. You would need to show a comparison with countries that dont usually do it. Also, the US tends to overdiagnose and overmedicate its children.

2019-02-21 13:33:36 UTC  

I am not at all comfortable with the idea that autistic children should be aborted on principal. It seems abhorrent.

2019-02-21 13:38:35 UTC  

To me it does too, tbh, but parents should have that option in severe cases if it becomes identifiable, I think

2019-02-21 13:40:08 UTC  

Parenthood should be based on knowledge of what you are signing up for whenever possible

2019-02-21 13:50:42 UTC  

Ideally they should, but let's be really honest here - killing off all the serious autistics is what I call 'a polite genocide'. And it would not stop at the serious ones. Like Downs in certain countries, we would be all but wiped out.

2019-02-21 13:52:18 UTC  

Can it really be considered a genocide when no one is killed?

2019-02-21 13:53:03 UTC  

If we talk about selecting for race or sex, eye or hair colour I would agree, but these things aren't disorders

2019-02-21 13:55:12 UTC  

And I doubt such a screening method would be advocated for mandatory screening and elimination. I'm sure we'll still be blessed with remarkable autistic people as we are today

2019-02-21 13:56:06 UTC  

I'm struggling to think of a way to put this that won't start a huge argument.

2019-02-21 13:57:11 UTC  

But I think that saying nobody is killed when an abortion happens is one of the most disturbing and disingenuous arguments that has ever existed.

2019-02-21 13:57:55 UTC  

And I'm sure that you may disagree. But I kinda have work and I'm very tired of the whole debate.

2019-02-21 13:58:18 UTC  

I'm sorry I upset you

2019-02-21 13:58:42 UTC  

It's fine. I'm actually just trying not to upset you actually.

2019-02-21 14:02:43 UTC  

I honestly think there's a lot of Millue language around this debate and it gets incredibly emotional. I think I'll opt out for now, honestly.

2019-02-21 14:04:02 UTC  

Ok, no worries, we don't have to agree on everything mate

2019-02-21 17:51:02 UTC  

I think sterilization would be better than genocide

2019-02-21 17:51:32 UTC  

but aborting when it's known the baby will have some sort of defect is the most ideal

2019-02-21 17:51:38 UTC  

honestly we need more abortions in general

2019-02-21 17:51:43 UTC  

this world is too overpopulated

2019-02-21 17:52:13 UTC  

that and automation is going to render most jobs obsolete in 20 years anyway

2019-02-21 17:54:05 UTC  

though, lets face it