And I'm sure that you may disagree. But I kinda have work and I'm very tired of the whole debate.

I'm sorry I upset you

It's fine. I'm actually just trying not to upset you actually.

I honestly think there's a lot of Millue language around this debate and it gets incredibly emotional. I think I'll opt out for now, honestly.

Ok, no worries, we don't have to agree on everything mate

I think sterilization would be better than genocide

but aborting when it's known the baby will have some sort of defect is the most ideal

honestly we need more abortions in general

this world is too overpopulated

that and automation is going to render most jobs obsolete in 20 years anyway

though, lets face it

those in power will commit mass genocide when that time comes anyway

We're all going to be up against the wall

I’ve seen people planning or hoping for a genocide against people that are circumcised. It’s scary, we didn’t choose the mutilation.

what's their logic?

Honestly I've been involved in men's rights quite a while and I've never seen that >.< where did that happen ?

Yeah, obviously it's never going to happen. But I can see an intactivist making that argument. They are quite authoritarian.

I've looked (and posted) on the intactivists sub before, and honestly I don't see any of that

Do you mean outside of Reddit somewhere?

Well i've never heard the argument, but i have heard intactivists say people who perform circumcision should be killed off

I’ve seen Facebook groups like that. European men making fun of mutilated Americans and joking about killing them.

Oh, fuck europeans honestly

Well on people who perform it I've maybe seen but it's an extreme minority

That's why islam is taking over their countries LOL

and you get arrested if you make an offensive joke

no freedom of speech at all

Dude I dont know you well enough to let you fuck me

and they constantly talk shit about america

Orwellian laws that allow people to be arrested for offensive jokes is far more terrifying than male circumcision

the UK is especially bad

and france and sweden

Good thing I keep my mouth shut most of the time

It's not an oppression Olympics here. And we have kind if strayed away from the topic of Men's Rights

you can't even get a paternity test in some countries in europe

in france and a couple other countries

they put you in jail for a year

if you get one

what a fucking joke

What is a paternity test?

a test to see if you are the real father of a child

That’s what I thought