Message from @QinGuan2004

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2019-01-01 12:04:03 UTC  

Milieu control involves the control of communication within a group environment, that also may (or may not) result in a significant degree of isolation from surrounding society. When non-group members, or outsiders, are considered or potentially labeled as less valuable without basis for stated group-supported and group-reinforced prejudice, group members may have a tendency to then consider themselves as intellectually superior, which can limit alternate points of view, thus becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy in which group members automatically begin to devalue others and the intellect of others that are separate from their group, without logical rationale for doing so. Additionally, Milieu control "includes other techniques to restrict members' contact with the outside world and to be able to make critical, rational, judgments about information."[2]

2019-01-01 12:04:11 UTC  

also the lying and distortion of facts

2019-01-01 12:04:41 UTC  

yes, i think its a valid comparison, obvious not in how much damage has been done, but when the times and political era are weighed

2019-01-01 12:04:53 UTC  

Pretty much yeah.

2019-01-01 12:09:35 UTC  

and what they WOULD do. if someone lacks empathy to the point where they dont care if their policies kill a few thousands a year, they wouldnt suddenly feel wrong about killing a few million. they just dont have the means yet

2019-01-01 12:11:02 UTC  

however, i actually DO think a sizable percent of people who agree with feminism, maybe 75% or more, are regular people at heart who are just being mislead and misinformed. they dont realize the damage they do (also what the nazis did in the beginning, very positive speeches)

2019-01-01 12:12:25 UTC  

Yeah, the Nazis were very much like that.

2019-01-01 12:12:58 UTC  

There's this meme that says Nazism doesn't just turn up with a gun. Nazism starts off as your friend.

2019-01-01 12:13:14 UTC  

Even in Nazi Germany the majority of the populace didn't know the extent of the atrocities. But most people dint know that and can't draw a clear parallel between that same attitude happening today, because they look back and see the deaths and see nothing now. They won't analyse the policy similarities before dismissing it

2019-01-01 12:13:24 UTC  

No, they didn't

2019-01-01 12:13:35 UTC  

And even if they did, what's one person against that?

2019-01-01 12:14:04 UTC  

Communism was similar.

2019-01-01 12:15:42 UTC  

exactly, i think its a comparison best avoided. the facts, quotes and laws they supported are enough. the MRM is well backed by data

2019-01-01 12:15:51 UTC  

communism is probably better than feminism

2019-01-01 12:16:14 UTC  

**or nazism**

2019-01-01 12:16:28 UTC  

Well, the Maoists actually ate people

2019-01-01 12:16:32 UTC  

Like, literally

2019-01-01 12:16:40 UTC  

But feminism is pretty shitty

2019-01-01 12:17:02 UTC  

i mean

2019-01-01 12:17:11 UTC  

communism in china now is pretty alright

2019-01-01 12:17:42 UTC  

i think its actually one of the leading reason why china is more advanced than alot of countries in areas like tech

2019-01-01 12:17:52 UTC  

chinas rather oppressive right now, and i think feminism is strongly linked to marxism\

2019-01-01 12:18:09 UTC  

but at least china is anti SJW

2019-01-01 12:20:28 UTC  

You can still get arrested for mentioning a certain massacre in a certain square in Tiananmen

2019-01-01 12:21:10 UTC  

And it is very authoritarian, at least based on what I have seen and compared to the West

2019-01-01 12:30:52 UTC  

being arrested for "hate speech" is creeping in the west though, and "hate speech" seems to mean anything against the intersectional narrative. in the UK at least. slowly but surely, creeping fascism

2019-01-01 12:43:42 UTC  

@Men Are Human i mean i dont think anyone would want to mention it its quite a shit thing to do ah

2019-01-01 12:53:53 UTC  

@QinGuan2004 I realise I've made this awkward, and I don't want to get you in trouble, but you have to realise that if that kind of thing happened over here people would be allowed to talk about it. They'd be allowed to scorn the fact that unarmed protestors were mowed down by the army. And it would be commemorated.

2019-01-01 12:54:18 UTC  

i guess its more of a cultural thing?

2019-01-01 12:54:56 UTC  

I don't personally think anyone should have that kind of culture forced onto them.

2019-01-01 12:55:16 UTC  

dont think its forced lol

2019-01-01 12:55:26 UTC  

They arrest people for talking about it.

2019-01-01 12:55:27 UTC  

just probably a sign of respect

2019-01-01 12:55:50 UTC  

tbh

2019-01-01 12:55:56 UTC  

i think its pretty fine there

2019-01-01 12:56:00 UTC  

imo

2019-01-01 12:56:29 UTC  

It's not really a sign of respect.

2019-01-01 12:56:52 UTC  

It's more a complete government veto on anyone talking about it.

2019-01-01 12:57:22 UTC  

I'm sorry if this is upsetting at all.

2019-01-01 12:57:28 UTC  

but i think the difference is the general population is pretty fine with it