I'm still against it

In that

I prefer no one become that desperate

And also

It depends on the situation to

If someone suicidal because they're depressed and medication might help

Then I can see the case for the state intervening

To get the individual help

But let's say it's not a condition that can be cured

Or say somebody is facing something like homelessness or a horrible disease

I think people have the right to commit suicide

In the case of their mind being temporarily out of whack yes

Now that doesn't mean you lock him up in an institution for ever to keep them from killing themselves

Not always

I've got mixed feelings on mental institutions. There are at least some people who are helped

But what scares the shit out of me is this: https://metro.co.uk/2017/10/26/mums-heartbreaking-photos-of-son-starved-of-oxygen-after-suicide-attempt-7028654/

"Over the last eight months he has learned how to move his hands from an armrest to his lap, and to blink once for ‘no’ and twice for ‘yes’. When Helen asks her son if he still wants to die, he blinks twice."

but lo, he's hospitalized

That isn't true about the firearm

Sorry I was in the grocery store

If hes in voluntarily committed then yes as firearm ownership rates are usually suspended

But you are able to get them back it's just I went the court battle

A lengthy court battles

If you commit yourself voluntarily none of that happens

Mental institutions have their place and their role

They're usually able to diagnose and treat you much more quickly and effectively when going through outpatient psychiatry

It can take a very long time to get in to see a therapist or a psychiatrist as a new patient

And many outpatient places at least here in the States are requiring you to go to therapy to be treated by their psychiatrist

So if you're bipolar but stable and just need your meds he have to go to therapy in order to be able to continue to get them

That's not true I saw one that was actually pretty good

He was like an old school psychotherapist and he had AAP HD

Phd

I only had one session with the guy but he mean me feel a 100 times better than I had felt about things

Basically long story short I had a flaying about 18 years ago

I may have had a kid that I never met

And I felt all this guilt but it was a weird situation I didn't want to jump in and demanded task because that ruins through kids relationship with his dad

Demanding tests *

He made me feel a lot better about that by pointing out that she was the one who would know whether or not I was the dad

And that i had no way of knowing

He also made me feel a lot better about dropping out of high school

Basically there was no way in could have finished with all of the violence and shit at home every night