Message from @InsaneCaterpilla
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As far as I know none of the tenets by themselves, without extreme extrapolation, that would put you on the left wing side of a scale advocate for gender quotas
Leftists or rightists doing x doesn't mean that x is a core belief of all leftists or rightists, because that action actually has to be tied to one of the beliefs that put you on that scale, instead of being tied to the actions of others who also happen to share that belief
Yeah I would say feminism puts you on the left
It's considered a left wing idealogoy
And or course that advocates for things like "more women in x field"
That's the same kind of logic though that assumes all men are rapists because some men rape
No not really
Guilt by association
I'm saying it's anleft wing idealogy not that all left wing people follow that ideology
Right, the left wing has, generally adopted feminism as a sub-ideology.
For example left wing is seen as pro choice. But not all Democrats are pronchoice even though the left wing is associated with Democrats.
Yeah
@GG Allin is correct
Sure, there are some conservative, traditionalist folks that embrace certain aspects of feminism, they do not adopt the entire ideology. The left has.
Only you've now switched to talking about the left and right wing political parties, whereas I'm talking about what actually makes you left wing or right wing on the scale. The actions of the political party don't change what is or isn't left or right wing at its core
The Nazis were the national socialist party but are considered right wing.
Sorry, I just caught the tail-end of this deabte.
debate*
Same here
If we were to switch to talking about political parties being against core MRM ideas though... I'm pretty sure *both of them* wouldn't qualify
Repeating wage gap myths and such.. 'binders of women'.. You essentially must vote independant if you hold that view
It's the democrats that are incompatible not Republicans
I think both would be incompatiable. Doesn't selectively favouring women go against our ideals?
Yea
I suppose it's a question of which party is "more" incomptaible.
Because like it or not, we have to exist within a two-party system at this point.
What about the MAGA party?
Is that a thing yet ?
Local influence can still happen though.
I don't think socialism works
Perhaps the whole 2 party system in the US is partly to blame for such a statement that being left wing is fundamentally incompatiable with being for the MRM. As you say people have to choose which is best, because those are the parties and 'that's that'. People conflate anything left or right wing with the political party and their actions rather than in its own place on the political spectrum.
That is true.
I do agree it isn't incompatible
You can do both