Message from @4DrivingWhileBlack

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2019-02-02 10:21:20 UTC  

I believe that men's movement shouldn't ever be a subsidiary of feminism.

2019-02-02 10:21:29 UTC  

We won't get anywhere

2019-02-02 10:21:41 UTC  

I agree

2019-02-02 10:21:52 UTC  

More people need to be ready to join in on both sides

2019-02-02 10:21:54 UTC  

Two independent movements are necessary for equality to be attained

2019-02-02 10:22:03 UTC  

Right

2019-02-02 10:22:12 UTC  

What we see today is lopsided equality

2019-02-02 10:22:14 UTC  

Independent but not divided by goal

2019-02-02 10:22:33 UTC  

That's fundamentally a bastardization of equality

2019-02-02 10:23:22 UTC  

I think that Elizabeth Coast's case is terrible

2019-02-02 10:23:33 UTC  

I think she should be getting at least as long as he was gonna get.

2019-02-02 10:24:59 UTC  

Wrongful sexual assault claims are really disgusting

2019-02-02 10:25:16 UTC  

Sorry for changing the topic a bit.

2019-02-02 10:37:26 UTC  

These are some of the problems, 'the feminists claim that 'false accusations are soooo negligible' and the 'fgm cannot be even compared to mgm'
They also believe that women are the ones shafted by the justice system

2019-02-02 11:18:24 UTC  

@~Red~ What I meant was that the feminist movement itself would latch on to whatever lets it survive in a given climate - not that it's a monolith. Though it does have militants who direct it. The problem with feminism is that it is not Egalitarian in its outlook. I see the MRM as being Egalitarian with a current focus on men - not as the equal opposite of feminism. Feminists do see us as being the opposite - but we don't have those theories about women that feminists have about men. We only ever talk about Toxic Femininity as a way to mock the idea that Masculinity is Toxic. We don't have theories about women's sexual organs, and we don't think in terms of oppressor/oppressed. We aren't centered around power either. If our major goals were achieved tomorrow, most of the movement would disolve. Not so with feminism.

2019-02-02 11:19:06 UTC  

I can understand that

2019-02-02 15:29:55 UTC  

Anyone see this?

2019-02-02 15:30:14 UTC  

reddit /u/Intaction posted a new self post in /r/MensRights
Couple of papers that show domestic violence symmetry - https://redd.it/amdff7

Page 2:

>460 men and women were examined out of whom 69.1% of men and 74.3% of women were subject to physical violence; 72.6% of men and 73.5% o...

2019-02-02 18:11:57 UTC  

Excellent source!

2019-02-02 20:35:14 UTC  

Found at B&N. Starting em off young.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523922218200203265/541355935399018539/image0.jpg

2019-02-02 20:39:55 UTC  

*Why have any men at all?' wrote Sally Miller Gearhart in a 1982 manifesto titled `The Future–If There Is One–Is Female.' Gearhart is an advocate of ovular merging, a process that involves the mating of two eggs, which has been successfully accomplished with mice. Only female offspring are produced. I've always worried that one day women would figure out how to get along without us and they would be able to reproduce unilaterally, like sponges. It's not genocide, exactly. It's more like job attrition, the way employers cut back positions without actually firing anyone. `A 75 per cent female to 25 percent male ratio could be achieved in one generation if one half of a population reproduced heterosexually and one half by ovular merging.' according to Gearhart. `Such a prospect is attractive to women who feel that if they bear sons, no amount of love and care and non-sexist training will save those sons from culture where male violence is institutionalized.*

2019-02-02 20:44:59 UTC  

I would love to see that occur in an experimental setting. Maybe they could start their own country.

2019-02-02 20:51:46 UTC  

Actually that would make a great movie. Watch women "man up" to take traditional roles of men, men divide sharply into alphas and betas, women become more feminine to compete when they have a 3 to 1 ratio with men.

2019-02-02 20:52:31 UTC  

It would be a very entertaining scenario

2019-02-02 20:53:58 UTC  

Society will still divide into masculine and feminine segments abut it won't be divided by sex anymore.

2019-02-02 20:55:40 UTC  

I suppose that is one way of achieving equality?

2019-02-03 05:44:30 UTC  

Wow, never watched any twitch streams at all

2019-02-03 05:44:34 UTC  

These gamergirl things are amazing.

2019-02-03 07:39:34 UTC  

@4DrivingWhileBlack I don't think most of those are necessarily even feminists.

2019-02-03 07:39:45 UTC  

Is Rosa Parks? Idk

2019-02-03 07:40:45 UTC  

Sally Miller, Gloria steinem, freida kahlo are some important feminists

2019-02-03 07:40:55 UTC  

@Indigo Damn. Imagine someone saying that about black people, wow

2019-02-03 07:41:54 UTC  

@Indigo they are. Can you find awful quotes from the others? Shouldn't be too hard.

2019-02-03 09:43:07 UTC  

lmfao

2019-02-03 09:53:35 UTC  

Eh, a lot of that seems to come from a white perspective rather than a male perspective, I don't think it's very relevant to mens rights

2019-02-03 09:54:09 UTC  

No, it's not. However, group polarization is.

2019-02-03 20:37:50 UTC  

I don't think anyone said that white people couldn't be proud, only that that isn't related to mens rights

2019-02-03 20:38:19 UTC  

Exactly. It’s not something we should focus on.

2019-02-03 20:38:23 UTC  

yeah, the MRM isnt a white movement at all.