Message from @4DrivingWhileBlack
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I believe that men's movement shouldn't ever be a subsidiary of feminism.
We won't get anywhere
I agree
More people need to be ready to join in on both sides
Two independent movements are necessary for equality to be attained
Right
What we see today is lopsided equality
Independent but not divided by goal
That's fundamentally a bastardization of equality
I think that Elizabeth Coast's case is terrible
I think she should be getting at least as long as he was gonna get.
Wrongful sexual assault claims are really disgusting
Sorry for changing the topic a bit.
These are some of the problems, 'the feminists claim that 'false accusations are soooo negligible' and the 'fgm cannot be even compared to mgm'
They also believe that women are the ones shafted by the justice system
@~Red~ What I meant was that the feminist movement itself would latch on to whatever lets it survive in a given climate - not that it's a monolith. Though it does have militants who direct it. The problem with feminism is that it is not Egalitarian in its outlook. I see the MRM as being Egalitarian with a current focus on men - not as the equal opposite of feminism. Feminists do see us as being the opposite - but we don't have those theories about women that feminists have about men. We only ever talk about Toxic Femininity as a way to mock the idea that Masculinity is Toxic. We don't have theories about women's sexual organs, and we don't think in terms of oppressor/oppressed. We aren't centered around power either. If our major goals were achieved tomorrow, most of the movement would disolve. Not so with feminism.
I can understand that
Anyone see this?
reddit /u/Intaction posted a new self post in /r/MensRights
Couple of papers that show domestic violence symmetry - https://redd.it/amdff7
Page 2:
>460 men and women were examined out of whom 69.1% of men and 74.3% of women were subject to physical violence; 72.6% of men and 73.5% o...
Excellent source!
*Why have any men at all?' wrote Sally Miller Gearhart in a 1982 manifesto titled `The Future–If There Is One–Is Female.' Gearhart is an advocate of ovular merging, a process that involves the mating of two eggs, which has been successfully accomplished with mice. Only female offspring are produced. I've always worried that one day women would figure out how to get along without us and they would be able to reproduce unilaterally, like sponges. It's not genocide, exactly. It's more like job attrition, the way employers cut back positions without actually firing anyone. `A 75 per cent female to 25 percent male ratio could be achieved in one generation if one half of a population reproduced heterosexually and one half by ovular merging.' according to Gearhart. `Such a prospect is attractive to women who feel that if they bear sons, no amount of love and care and non-sexist training will save those sons from culture where male violence is institutionalized.*
I would love to see that occur in an experimental setting. Maybe they could start their own country.
Actually that would make a great movie. Watch women "man up" to take traditional roles of men, men divide sharply into alphas and betas, women become more feminine to compete when they have a 3 to 1 ratio with men.
It would be a very entertaining scenario
Society will still divide into masculine and feminine segments abut it won't be divided by sex anymore.
I suppose that is one way of achieving equality?
Wow, never watched any twitch streams at all
These gamergirl things are amazing.
@4DrivingWhileBlack I don't think most of those are necessarily even feminists.
Is Rosa Parks? Idk
Sally Miller, Gloria steinem, freida kahlo are some important feminists
@Indigo Damn. Imagine someone saying that about black people, wow
@Indigo they are. Can you find awful quotes from the others? Shouldn't be too hard.
lmfao
Eh, a lot of that seems to come from a white perspective rather than a male perspective, I don't think it's very relevant to mens rights
No, it's not. However, group polarization is.
I don't think anyone said that white people couldn't be proud, only that that isn't related to mens rights
Exactly. It’s not something we should focus on.
yeah, the MRM isnt a white movement at all.