Message from @Indigo
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I do hate the way some people will ignore the issues of men in order to promote feminism
And I'm against misandrists of course
Being against feminism means being against what feminism had done and continues to do
They give a rats ass about men's issues
It feels like an overgeneralisation
Everything they had done for men is "teaching them to cry more and combating toxic masculinity"
You can check menslib if you want
Almost all of their activism centers among combating toxic masculinity and teaching men to cry
Do you think that a person can be a feminist as well as an MRA?
Or do you disagree with the common definition of feminism?
I believe a person can be both feminist and an mra. Feminism had done good for women. I do believe that both movements are necessary for a non lopsided world
But modern feminist activists aren't doing much for men. Is that basically your view?
Because I would agree that there's too much division
Feminists need to stop the bs that "FemiInism sTands For men tOO
People don't think they can support both sides
Yeah, popular feminist movements don't do too much for the dudes.
They do hurt men though
Read the answer by Karen Straughan
Sure thing
I believe that men's movement shouldn't ever be a subsidiary of feminism.
I agree
More people need to be ready to join in on both sides
Two independent movements are necessary for equality to be attained
Right
What we see today is lopsided equality
Independent but not divided by goal
That's fundamentally a bastardization of equality
I think that Elizabeth Coast's case is terrible
I think she should be getting at least as long as he was gonna get.
Wrongful sexual assault claims are really disgusting
Sorry for changing the topic a bit.
These are some of the problems, 'the feminists claim that 'false accusations are soooo negligible' and the 'fgm cannot be even compared to mgm'
They also believe that women are the ones shafted by the justice system
@~Red~ What I meant was that the feminist movement itself would latch on to whatever lets it survive in a given climate - not that it's a monolith. Though it does have militants who direct it. The problem with feminism is that it is not Egalitarian in its outlook. I see the MRM as being Egalitarian with a current focus on men - not as the equal opposite of feminism. Feminists do see us as being the opposite - but we don't have those theories about women that feminists have about men. We only ever talk about Toxic Femininity as a way to mock the idea that Masculinity is Toxic. We don't have theories about women's sexual organs, and we don't think in terms of oppressor/oppressed. We aren't centered around power either. If our major goals were achieved tomorrow, most of the movement would disolve. Not so with feminism.
I can understand that
Anyone see this?
reddit /u/Intaction posted a new self post in /r/MensRights
Couple of papers that show domestic violence symmetry - https://redd.it/amdff7
Page 2:
>460 men and women were examined out of whom 69.1% of men and 74.3% of women were subject to physical violence; 72.6% of men and 73.5% o...
Excellent source!
*Why have any men at all?' wrote Sally Miller Gearhart in a 1982 manifesto titled `The Future–If There Is One–Is Female.' Gearhart is an advocate of ovular merging, a process that involves the mating of two eggs, which has been successfully accomplished with mice. Only female offspring are produced. I've always worried that one day women would figure out how to get along without us and they would be able to reproduce unilaterally, like sponges. It's not genocide, exactly. It's more like job attrition, the way employers cut back positions without actually firing anyone. `A 75 per cent female to 25 percent male ratio could be achieved in one generation if one half of a population reproduced heterosexually and one half by ovular merging.' according to Gearhart. `Such a prospect is attractive to women who feel that if they bear sons, no amount of love and care and non-sexist training will save those sons from culture where male violence is institutionalized.*