Message from @~Red~

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2019-02-02 08:45:03 UTC  

This is exactly what I was worried about when I told people that feminists would act like they had always been onboard with male issues to score points for their movement. They did the same thing with gay rights - after opposing them for years - and they now act like they had a big hand in securing them. Which they didn't.

2019-02-02 08:45:49 UTC  

They absolutely will co-opt our issues wherever the tide turns against them, and they will do it shamelessly.

2019-02-02 08:46:59 UTC  

And then they will continue as normal.

2019-02-02 08:47:34 UTC  

This is why it's important to smash feminist rhetoric and protest feminism itself.

2019-02-02 08:48:05 UTC  

If we don't, Male Suicide will just become another talking point for #HeForShe

2019-02-02 10:10:14 UTC  

Feminists aren't some hive mind

2019-02-02 10:10:30 UTC  

It isn't fair to be against feminism as a whole

2019-02-02 10:10:56 UTC  

Women need support just as men do

2019-02-02 10:11:20 UTC  

Being against feminism is not being anti women

2019-02-02 10:11:39 UTC  

I do hate the way some people will ignore the issues of men in order to promote feminism

2019-02-02 10:12:06 UTC  

And I'm against misandrists of course

2019-02-02 10:12:49 UTC  

Being against feminism means being against what feminism had done and continues to do

2019-02-02 10:13:16 UTC  

They give a rats ass about men's issues

2019-02-02 10:13:38 UTC  

It feels like an overgeneralisation

2019-02-02 10:14:54 UTC  

Everything they had done for men is "teaching them to cry more and combating toxic masculinity"

2019-02-02 10:15:04 UTC  

You can check menslib if you want

2019-02-02 10:15:40 UTC  

Almost all of their activism centers among combating toxic masculinity and teaching men to cry

2019-02-02 10:16:05 UTC  

Do you think that a person can be a feminist as well as an MRA?

2019-02-02 10:16:19 UTC  

Or do you disagree with the common definition of feminism?

2019-02-02 10:17:41 UTC  

I believe a person can be both feminist and an mra. Feminism had done good for women. I do believe that both movements are necessary for a non lopsided world

2019-02-02 10:18:18 UTC  

But modern feminist activists aren't doing much for men. Is that basically your view?

2019-02-02 10:18:39 UTC  

Because I would agree that there's too much division

2019-02-02 10:18:48 UTC  

Feminists need to stop the bs that "FemiInism sTands For men tOO

2019-02-02 10:18:50 UTC  

People don't think they can support both sides

2019-02-02 10:19:15 UTC  

Yeah, popular feminist movements don't do too much for the dudes.

2019-02-02 10:19:38 UTC  

They do hurt men though

2019-02-02 10:19:52 UTC  

Read the answer by Karen Straughan

2019-02-02 10:20:00 UTC  

Sure thing

2019-02-02 10:21:20 UTC  

I believe that men's movement shouldn't ever be a subsidiary of feminism.

2019-02-02 10:21:29 UTC  

We won't get anywhere

2019-02-02 10:21:41 UTC  

I agree

2019-02-02 10:21:52 UTC  

More people need to be ready to join in on both sides

2019-02-02 10:21:54 UTC  

Two independent movements are necessary for equality to be attained

2019-02-02 10:22:03 UTC  

Right

2019-02-02 10:22:12 UTC  

What we see today is lopsided equality

2019-02-02 10:22:14 UTC  

Independent but not divided by goal

2019-02-02 10:22:33 UTC  

That's fundamentally a bastardization of equality

2019-02-02 10:23:22 UTC  

I think that Elizabeth Coast's case is terrible

2019-02-02 10:23:33 UTC  

I think she should be getting at least as long as he was gonna get.

2019-02-02 10:24:59 UTC  

Wrongful sexual assault claims are really disgusting

2019-02-02 10:25:16 UTC  

Sorry for changing the topic a bit.