Message from @James
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I've not looked at the actual calculation used so if I'm wrong I'm happy to be
On average men will pay more sure, but average miles are not the problem and not anything anyone is arguing about. Simply changed the sex on your insurance application from female to male will result in thousands increase
Really? I pay like £300 including breakdown coverage. For the year
I may be exaggerating the cost then, obviously depends what car you have and such (the more it's worth the more the increase will be etc)
The rest stands
Reading the article
""For motor insurance, factors such as the type of car, number of miles driven, driving record and claims experience will all impact on the cost of cover," he explained. "Men and women are likely to drive different types of vehicle, do different mileage, and these variations, not gender pricing, will reflect in premiums."
Like I said it looks like a wage gap comparison. Men just drive more under more risky conditions
Reading into it, yes, companies are complying with the rules yet have basically circumvented them to even increase the cost difference.
https://www.independent.co.uk/money/spend-save/car-insurance-eu-law-men-women-charge-different-comparethemarket-gender-directive-a7969816.html
They've simply taken things such as the type of jobs that require vehicles which more men work inand shifted the extra cost there, as well as the types of cars men tend to buy.
This is still gender discrimination, it's just in a more roundabout way.
Well that's just the argument feminists use to claim a wage gap.
"Women are expected to stay at home"
Men choose to work those jobs and men choose to drive fast cars. I pay 300 because I drive a small car and work a low risk job with minimal commute.
If we're ok with one we should be ok with the other.
Any way I need to get back to fact checking people at work haha.
How can you say men have chosen a particular job when it comes after the fact? You want them to just give up their job and livelihood when insurers have unreasonably changed the rules on them?
It's not the same argument because the 'wage gap' is gone into knowingly by women who choose those professions, the men who have chosen their professions just suddenly had those costs added onto them *in a real effort by insurance companies to keep the costs on men*
If you go into a driving profession insurance is part of those costs. Anybody with any sense would factor those costs in. It's part of the reason men earn more.
They increased those costs, on the professions men are in, to offset not being able to directly charge men more. You can't factor in such a cost increase.
The way that it was done discriminates against men
We can restart this later but I have a bunch of stuff to check at work. I respectfully disagree though.
That much for saline? If you guys lived in Europe that would be considered attempted blackmail.
@InsaneCaterpilla ever see the old 'Sheila's wheels' adverts? If you talked down to women like they do, you'd be lynched.
hi
@Men Are Human sold insurance apparently tough
Still sexist, really.
No worries. I wasn't accusing you
By the way, I hope you have all seen this: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a20zv8/mgm_is_illegal_the_pay_gap_is_a_sham_fantastic/
The International Men's Day speech in the UK Parliament!
@Men Are Human I remember those ads, they pissed me off back then too. Thanks for that link, I hadn't seen it
@InsaneCaterpilla Pissed me off more! XD
I doubt it, the music and singing were just as grating as the sexist message
@InsaneCaterpilla I was just joking about. XD
I know mate.
It's good to see those issues being discussed in parliament, and its also hard not to be angry toward that woman for laughing at what he was saying. At the same time she's practically proving the contempt men are held in
Yep. Laughing at men for bringing up men's problems in Parliament is a bit of a tradition.
"Can we just talk about men being abused for a second?"
*Hysterical disbelieving laughter*
Hey, why don't we find out who she is and write her polite letters of disgust?
I wouldn't be polite
It wouldn't be considered misconduct would it? She didn't break the rules
Hmmm.
Maybe not actual misconduct.
Unless they consider gender-based discrimination?
I think it would likely be a hard sell to consider what she did that, sadly. It's deplorable, but it doesn't break any rules.
Yeah, I am kinda seeing that.