I don't understand how people can claim they were manipulated into something like child torture

I feel like if you are so weak of the mind that you can legitimately be manipulated into such a thing then you where always a danger to your children, I am curious though, is there any information on the father of the boys?

or how the boy who survived is doing?

That's a good question. I don't remember if they touched on that in the podcast.

they didn't, I just finished it, they get very wrapped up in the more surreal elements on the story that they really failed to talk about the more human elements

Ondrej and Yakub were Klara's little kids, she was really young when she had them and the father of the boys left her after a few years later and from them the woman developed a difficult and aggressive character, leaving the little ones in a dangerous situation.

anything I can find about the father seems pretty vague, not a lot of details

still struggling to find info on the one boy who survived

Poor kids man

It's just mind blowing that anyone could let this happen to their kids.

I don't care if she was manipulated or mentally unstable, that kind of behavior is completely unacceptable, if she wasnt able to see how what she was doing was wrong, then she should face the consequences

I agree. Honestly I don't see why anyone involved should have ever seen daylight again.

I still can't find any info on the surviving son.

Perhaps they are keeping him away from the public / media

I can't imagine what that trauma did to him.

possible, but thats a little bit of my concern, that kind of ordeal can mess with someone in ways that are difficult to predict, not to mention already having a history of mental illness in the family

I just hope he is able to recover as best he can and it doesn't turn him in to a monster

They said the two sisters are out already right ?

They completed their sentences ?

I guess, I did find one footnote that the father of the boys did try to get them back at some point, yet again the details are too damn vague.

doesnt say if he ever got custody or not.

Finally found details on the boys, apparently one of them dying isn't true and they are both grown and well adjusted young men despite everything they where forced though, this gives me a bit of peace of mind xD

One journalist searched for the boys and claims despite of trauma they went through, today they are self-confident young men. Here is FB status written by Ondrej recently:

“If you get hurt by someone who took the benefit from you with high hopes, learn to respect him and take him as the biggest teacher of yours, because if your life is going smoothly you become a delicate person, if on the other hand you experience tragic circumstances, you develop inner power and courage to face them”.

That's great that they both survived.

I hope the podcast does a correction

you can bring it up with them, just to add a little correction in the description, I didn't have the best look at it though so I wouldn't know

it is a pretty horrific story so a little amendment to help with peace of mind could be nice.

Definitely. I feel much better now that I know they survived.

Do you have a link to the Info about them both surviving?

I found it on a reddit article about the case in r/unsolvedmysteries

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/71em36/kurim_case_resolved/

you can probably see if the author is still around and ask him for his sources on it since I know its not the best

I tweeted them with the Reddit link. Hopefully they can chase the source down

I wish people didn't lump us in with racists and misogyny

yeah, is awesome getting called an alt-right all the time when you would find that a good chunk of the members here are pretty left leaning

misogyny is a great one for me, feminist find out I'm a woman and then it morphs into "internalized misogyny"

Like the black racists ?

That must be hard being a female men's right advocate

At least certainly not popular

not typically no, it's an interesting perspective I think, I actually get accused of a lot of things that male feminists get accused of just in reverse

I'm a female MRA, it's not as hard as you expect