Message from @Uberduperdrew

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2018-12-13 20:29:56 UTC  

@Abbysol I think the reason is they see you as a traitor, and internalized mahogany is their patch to cover the fact you are putting the lie to what they say.

2018-12-13 20:30:58 UTC  

@InsaneCaterpilla Yeah, I've noticed that for years. It's worse though. Keep track of every charity leaflet you get and look at the pictures in them. Literally 90% women and the women always get featured most prominently

2018-12-13 20:31:29 UTC  

I wish I could scan some to make a compilation but they tend to be all odd shapes.

2018-12-13 20:32:17 UTC  

I've got one from Sightsavers on my desk about the trachoma infection.

2018-12-13 20:32:51 UTC  

People are pulling out their eyelashes with twesers because the infection makes them grow inward.

2018-12-13 20:34:00 UTC  

Wow

2018-12-13 20:35:01 UTC  

Judging by this leaflet, this is one sexist infection - it only affects girls. They literally have a pair of tweezers on a necklace and it says "It's what all the girls are wearing these days"

2018-12-13 20:35:31 UTC  

Man that sucks

2018-12-13 20:35:41 UTC  

I wonder why it would prefer girls

2018-12-13 20:35:59 UTC  

It doesn't, that's the thing

2018-12-13 20:39:32 UTC  

Correction - it is said to affect women more, due to increased contact with children.

2018-12-13 20:41:06 UTC  

Ah ok

2018-12-13 20:43:01 UTC  

However, that's adult women

2018-12-13 20:43:23 UTC  

The leaflet focuses on young girls - and there is no difference at that age.

2018-12-13 20:43:41 UTC  

So it's still neglecting boys. 😛

2018-12-13 20:44:56 UTC  

Apparently adult women are affected four times as much as men - however, that doesn't tell us if there are more women than men.

2018-12-13 20:44:59 UTC  

I don't understand all of that believe women stuff

2018-12-13 20:45:46 UTC  

It's kind of an emotional apeal

2018-12-13 20:46:00 UTC  

We have an instinct to protect women, and that sidelines men.

2018-12-13 20:46:25 UTC  

But sometimes they make up fakse accusations

2018-12-13 20:46:38 UTC  

They do. It's another kind of emotional appeal

2018-12-13 20:46:48 UTC  

Shouldn't we side with caution and believe the accused until they are proven guilty?

2018-12-13 20:47:10 UTC  

We need total fairness in courts.

2018-12-13 20:47:21 UTC  

But we don't seem to get that

2018-12-13 20:47:25 UTC  

Correction: I misread you

2018-12-13 20:47:30 UTC  

Sorry

2018-12-13 20:47:34 UTC  

We need to side with neither

2018-12-13 20:47:47 UTC  

But even outside of court we shouldn't just believe that accuser

2018-12-13 20:47:56 UTC  

Not the accuser or the accused

2018-12-13 20:48:09 UTC  

It needs to be a case of not believing or disbeliving

2018-12-13 20:48:17 UTC  

You stay impartial, in other words

2018-12-13 20:49:02 UTC  

You can stay impartial but I tend to believe the accused until proven otherwise

2018-12-13 20:49:15 UTC  

Because the damage down by not believing them is so horrible

2018-12-13 20:49:47 UTC  

Innocent until proven guilty

2018-12-13 20:52:13 UTC  

Yes, absolutely, innocent until proven guilty is important - but it needs to apply both ways.

2018-12-13 20:52:47 UTC  

We don't automatically take either side because either side could be wrong - or lying

2018-12-13 20:55:35 UTC  

If we start to take the side of the accused, what happens is this whole thing becomes a pendulum swinging the other way. It'll swing hard in favour of the accused, and then the accuser, and then back. What we really need is for the pendulum to stop, or the next generation will be fighting to swing it the other way.

2018-12-13 20:55:48 UTC  

That's my take on it anyway.

2018-12-13 21:05:43 UTC  

Ah, sorry if I came over a bit 'super hard-core debating mode @Uberduperdrew , I've been debating too much recently. Lol.

2018-12-13 21:06:25 UTC  

So how is @everyone tonight? Are we all doing good?