but everyone in the world knows mcdonalds

id love to see the MRM start becoming like you'd see scratched in a bathroom wall, or posters in a teenagers room, like a counter culture thing. make it cool, and slightly dangerous like rock music was

"oh no! my son is listening to that jim morrison/my son is an MRA!"

Lol

We do need that

Hmmm

Maybe we need something new

fastest way to make anything grow with the youth. thats why people like paul elam need to retire somewhere and focus on his checkers game

Hmmm

we shouldnt be presuring people into the MRM, we should make ourselves the coolest party on the block. make them feel like they are being left out, do the reverse...what makes you cool enough to be an MRA?

I kinda think the subreddit's symbol just needs to be drawn better.

That would be a good syymbol

@blueorange22 I'm cool enough!!!

XD

btw, you are @goodmod are mods there, right?

Goodmod is, but I'm not.

I know Goodmod pretty well though

ok, so we should make this the official discord of the sub

It's the semi-official one at the moment

yeah ive been seeing the posts

We're meant to be getting a sidebar link soon

great

What we really need is to make this the official Discord of the entire movement

As much as you can do something like that

I mean, we don't exactly have a central office, but if we can get the major sites to support us, we should

exactly, the MRM needs central organization. a central office is what we need, anda logo helps that

Yes. One of the biggest boons and downfalls of both our movement and feminisms is there is no core leadership, per say

Just the loudest voices.

But, at the same time, that makes it easier for everyone to speak.

Unless one of those movements goes down the conformist repressive line. XD

Feminists say the same thing regarding feminism though... 'Not all feminists are like that' etc

In the end its not the people that we need to back, its the issues

but they never call out feminists who ARE "like that". and seem to support them everywhere they are

Yes, they do, but I think you're missing the point... You were saying we need an organised leadership. I dint think that matters and we just support the issues, and we do pay attention and promote/support people who fight for our issues, Jordan Peterson, Karen etc. I think things are fine like that. We don't need a 'central office/authority'. Having places to gather and discuss is awesome but that's not the same thing

eventually a lack of organization and coordination will limit our effectiveness, especially when anti MRAs start false flagging

True. We aren't at the 'hire a PR guy' stage just yet, but there is a middle ground

I don't think things being like that causes lack of organisation, we can decide which issues to protest and perform activism together without being sheep. I think a place like this to gather and discuss is important like I said, but not to command everyone or have it so we are in a hierarchy of importance

There is also the idea that a leadership could be taken out. Leaders get targets painted on them, and the opposition has proven they are willing to play VERY dirty.

Alright, you win. Lol

We do need a proper banner, but we should have that soon.

@Men Are Human Alright, it took me almost a minute to figure out the only reason I was pinged was a simple "hi everyone" plug. If you're going to do that, could you at least put it in a separate channel so I could actually find an ignore it as opposed to trying to figure out who is talking specifically to me? It is super duper obnoxious.