I've heard /r/menslib hates /r/mensrights but I haven't gone to menslib and as such don't know what the beef is

I like to think of myself as an egalitarian, I know women have had issues in the past, and even still do today, but they aren’t serious hard pressing issues and they worry about non existent ones I like many people can’t take them seriously

And when they bash people I hate it.

I just want equality unfortunately that’s not what femism is pushing for anymore, so I can’t side with them, and right now we need to talk about men’s issues, it is long overdue.

The falsifying of statistics and spread of misinformation is what really gets me

Yep

And just the general hate

At some point it stopped being a movement for rights and started becoming an echo chamber for hate.

And that was quite a while ago

My favorite thing is when you ask a feminist "What right do men have that women don't have?" they say something along the lines of "I'm afraid to walk alone at night!"

Okay...

And your point is?

Like are you implying I’m not?

It’s just stupid arguments

That's not a right either

No one should feel comfortable walking alone at night honestly, it sounds like a recipe for disaster even for a man

Or when you bring up men’s issues and they say “we are working on that but it’s the patriarchy and toxic masculinity that causes that, you can’t blame us, we didn’t make the laws.”

It’s just like “My issue your fault, your problem”


“Your issue, your fault, your problem.”

Pretty much, I think I've seen one feminist, ever, argue against circumcision and it blew my mind a bit

I’ve seen one feminist not hate men’s rights

She blew it right after when she started talking about how if a male gets raped and talks about then they are taking away from the “real” issue, but that’s another beef for another time.

As far as I know, women who actually report their rapes almost never watch their rapist go free

Men who report their rapes however....

Funnily enough it seems like feminism is actually about taking away agency and responsibility for women, almost every change they clamor for is effectively something that will make women no longer have to be responsible people

If you're afraid to walk alone at night that's good. That's being responsible for your own safety

Abortions and free birth control stop women from having to be sexually responsible

The "wage gap" myth aims to prevent women from having to make good career choices

I honestly would love male birth control

Not because I don’t trust women just because I think it would be nice to have that control.

Male birth control is TRT

Plus if I don’t have to put that on my partner that’s a plus

TRT?

Testosterone replacement therapy

You stop producing LH and end up with shrunk infertile testicles

I’ll pass on that much

Something more... temporary would be nice 😛

There may be some other thing they're developing, but I *doubt* there's anything can will not stop testerone production but will stop sperm production.

Yep

They do kinda go hand in hand (unfortunately for male birth control) but hey, medical science is great, so maybe someday.

Anyone in the Chicago area?

It’s gonna be frigid tomorrow. Stay safe.