Message from @Deleted User

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2018-08-16 04:36:42 UTC  

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2018-08-16 09:37:35 UTC  

did devon leave neo-nazi ideology completely?

2018-08-16 09:45:12 UTC  

Hopefully, neo-nazis are degenerates and almost always Anti-muslim and even pro-israel.

2018-08-16 09:46:21 UTC  

are people of european descent tolerated in islam or is there prejudice?

2018-08-16 09:47:11 UTC  

I was told no, but I heard that muslims don't marry outside their country of origin very often

2018-08-16 09:56:37 UTC  

I am ethnic Norwegian... But so is my wife. But it was no problem getting married, when I looked for a wife I could easily marry most girls from any place in the world. Reverts have a good reputation. If there is any discrimination then it's that we are preferred.

2018-08-16 09:57:31 UTC  

I see. So the bias in favour of europeans is present

2018-08-16 09:57:54 UTC  

why though, with all the stuff we write on the internet? 🤔

2018-08-16 09:59:35 UTC  

Yeah, but that is only due to the fact that people usually have married locally. But yes, there seems to be a bias in favour of Europeans.

2018-08-16 09:59:46 UTC  

I am not muslim, but aside from terrorism, I never saw a problem with the religon itself. A lot of old women here use the veil on their heads and in church. We used to be as strict as them under christianity.

2018-08-16 10:01:13 UTC  

Same here in norway, if you look at old paintings then the women looked Muslim. And we were strict when people took Christianity seriously, but almost nobody takes it seriously now.

2018-08-16 10:02:19 UTC  

what do you think about western progressives being "tolerant" towards islam?

2018-08-16 10:02:59 UTC  

Is it actual interest or something to gain voters and then throw away? there are contrasting principles between the two.

2018-08-16 10:03:36 UTC  

so I wonder what will it be like in the future once islam is a bit more enstablished and attitudes will shift

2018-08-16 10:06:44 UTC  

I don't know what they mean with tolerant. They want to make sure muslims can get jobs, but they are usually against people practicing the religion. I don't trust them

2018-08-16 10:07:17 UTC  

they mean that islam should be accepted, but at the same time they seem to want a westernization of it

2018-08-16 10:07:26 UTC  

so to speak

2018-08-16 10:07:54 UTC  

they did the same with christianity at first in my country. they picked and chose what was deemed good and said the rest was bigoted

2018-08-16 10:08:07 UTC  

then some others pushed for atheism

2018-08-16 10:08:29 UTC  

my country, italy, has all young people atheist or agnostic, very few are christians, and those are mocked

2018-08-16 10:09:45 UTC  

especially for pedophilia and bad Church conduct.

2018-08-16 10:09:55 UTC  

or just because of reddit atheism seeping

2018-08-16 10:11:14 UTC  

True, same in norway. Christians today usually just change their religion to fit with whatever the atheists consider trendy. Pure degeneracy. Christians are mocked here as well and they mock themselves. Which is why people react so strongly to Muslims because muslims generally don't mock their own religion or tolerate that others do. If Jesus is mocked only Muslims get angry here in norway.

2018-08-16 10:11:32 UTC  

as it should be

2018-08-16 10:11:40 UTC  

I have lost all respect for christianity

2018-08-16 10:11:54 UTC  

its istitutions, to be precise

2018-08-16 10:12:15 UTC  

I used to be very faithful, but too many things go wrong

2018-08-16 10:12:34 UTC  

Atheism is degenerate and I feel Christians should be able to decide how they live to a larger degree. But we used to have a state church and the church leaders the last 80 years have pretty much always been atheists.

2018-08-16 10:15:03 UTC  

state churches are a sham

2018-08-16 10:15:22 UTC  

But as I always say, there is no secular reason why any moral claims are true. So atheism implies that no morality exist. For example if someone wants to kill and eat children and accepts jail or believes he can avoid it then he has no reason why he ought not do it. Unless you mix in Islam or Christianity. From a purely non-religious perspective there is no reason not to do it. They can only say it is morally wrong to kill and eat children if they don't want to do it.

2018-08-16 10:15:29 UTC  

they were mostly a tool of power to control religion, fitting the need of rulers. that is why the catholic church used to oppose emperors in the middle ages

2018-08-16 10:17:14 UTC  

religions were a moral guide for all peoples in all ages

2018-08-16 10:17:23 UTC  

us westeners have done a mistake

2018-08-16 10:18:43 UTC  

State churches are degenerate and yes it was to control the religion. Nobody can control Islam though it is a disorganised religion. Look at all the degenerate and evil Muslim leaders trying to control it. They have no chance so they just have to suppress Muslims and Muslim practices.

2018-08-16 10:19:43 UTC  

atheists believe in UN, human rights and similar but they mostly conflict with what they mean

2018-08-16 10:22:01 UTC  

They say they believe that, but those values are based largely on Christian values. There is no secular reason why any of those rights are real.

2018-08-16 10:26:15 UTC  

For example if an atheist leader wants to break human rights (like Sam Harris for example who thinks torture is a good thing to do) then what reason do they have not to do it?

2018-08-16 10:33:40 UTC  

I see most atheists focus on myths or scandals, they don't read theology

2018-08-16 11:06:51 UTC  

But then again, God guides who he wants to guide. There are many very smart and honest atheists. Like the philosopher J. L. Mackie (one of my main influences in moral philosophy). He wrote a great book called "The miracle of theism: arguments for and against the existence of God" which is probably the most comprehensive book on the subject. And even when he found arguments for the existence of God that he seems to think is both sound and seemingly valid that still doesn't make him believe in God. He just assumes that someone will find a good counter argument in the future. Ever since then I have not cared about arguing for the existence of God. Even if you convince someone that you have a good argument that doesn't make them believe in God. The belief that God doesn't exist is not something they have come up with by rational reasoning and therefore rational reasoning can not lead them out of it. They are completely blocked of from the almighty majesty of the universe, creator of the universe. Until they change so that they please the Lord.

2018-08-16 17:11:57 UTC  

@Deleted User Devon completely gave up racism and anti-Semetism (although I think he still somewhat had an 'it's the jews' though not nearly as pronounced as before), but he still liked elements of fascism like authoritarianism and excessive militarization. I would've only gave it time before he gave those up as well.

2018-08-17 01:38:24 UTC  

Devon is completely Salafi now