Message from @Kazimir Malevich

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2018-12-20 09:45:55 UTC  

That's only

2018-12-20 09:45:56 UTC  

1

2018-12-20 09:46:00 UTC  

of the alternatives

2018-12-20 09:46:14 UTC  

There's 2 more

2018-12-20 09:46:15 UTC  

Fascism

2018-12-20 09:46:22 UTC  

And the other retarded one nobody cares about

2018-12-20 09:49:39 UTC  

Fascism is state controlled capitalism

2018-12-20 09:50:14 UTC  

With forced societal Darwinism

2018-12-20 09:52:16 UTC  

@Josh42A way oversimplified

2018-12-20 09:52:48 UTC  

That doesn't mean it's false

2018-12-20 09:53:41 UTC  

I'm talking to someone that seems to be utterly ignorant of polititics.

2018-12-20 11:54:23 UTC  

It depends on the fascism though. If you’ve got Stalin type fascism, you’ve got (((state controlled communism))) with forced (((egalitarianism))) with a Jewish elite.

2018-12-20 14:42:19 UTC  

Hey Stalin wasn't a fascist

2018-12-20 14:43:38 UTC  

Fascism is a European manifestation of a Third Positionist worldview that uses trade-union centered economic systems such as Corporatism or National Syndicalism with a Totalitarian, ultranationalist state

2018-12-20 14:46:28 UTC  

It is not state-controlled capitalism, it is not forced societal darwinism, it is a very specific concept that has only *really* occurred twice (Italy and pre-Anschluss Austria)

2018-12-20 14:47:32 UTC  
2018-12-20 14:47:49 UTC  

Also if you're talking about alternatives to capitalism, there is like an infinite amount

2018-12-20 14:47:56 UTC  

Stop thinking so rigidly

2018-12-20 15:25:08 UTC  

Name 10

2018-12-20 15:27:47 UTC  

There is a large amount of alternatives, but a little amount of workable or sustainable ones.

2018-12-20 15:28:16 UTC  

Not to mention that change is highly improbable under the yoke of the current system.

2018-12-20 17:21:03 UTC  

I mean that people are creative, and could come up with *literally an infinite amount of economic systems*

2018-12-20 18:00:15 UTC  

I called him on bullshit and he left the server LMFAO

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2018-12-20 19:10:00 UTC  

Most alternatives to capitalism still incorporate elements of it, would you agree? @Josh42A

2018-12-20 19:10:13 UTC  

Like wage labor and/or private property

2018-12-20 19:10:27 UTC  

any system with a monetary unit is capitalism

2018-12-20 19:10:45 UTC  

I would disagree

2018-12-20 19:10:50 UTC  

communism is the one alternitive because they replace money

2018-12-20 19:30:00 UTC  

@The Big Oof do you understand from a financial perspective what capital is?

2018-12-20 19:30:17 UTC  

Explain your position on this.

2018-12-20 19:30:44 UTC  

You may have a better understanding than I do, we'll see

2018-12-20 19:30:53 UTC  

In accounting capital is any form of asset that has a monetary value assigned to it

2018-12-20 19:31:16 UTC  

Yep

2018-12-20 19:31:37 UTC  

any society with capital is capitalist in my opinion

2018-12-20 19:32:04 UTC  

true marxist communism would be the only outlier

2018-12-20 19:32:21 UTC  

Alright, I see your position now. It's more of a strict one, but still correct depending on how one looks at it

2018-12-20 19:32:45 UTC  

spain republic had no capital but they soon introduced coupons

2018-12-20 19:36:49 UTC  

What most people call capitalism could be called labeled "liberalism" if this definition is to be followed

2018-12-20 19:40:28 UTC  

*any system with a monetary unit is capitalism*
By that logic Feudalism and Fascism are capitalist.

2018-12-20 19:40:47 UTC  

Idk how many commies would agree with you calling Feudalism capitalist

2018-12-20 19:49:43 UTC  

I agree that Feudalism and Fascism are economically capitalist