It’s quite simple.

Social pressure is violence in that meaning

Certainly not.

You can have indirect control without initiating force.

You do acknowledge that someone that failed to accept social pressure will be in an ancap society isolated and left to die, right?

@Bearer Of The Curse I am not sure there is such rule and I said it in the context of the discussion you are having with Water

yeah, sure.

what happens if you refuse to get a job?

if nobody takes care of you, ya die.

but if you wanna play alone then I am not gonna bug in lol

:p

ladies, please, one at a time.

You’re in a serious discussion chat, and you aren’t part of the discussion.

If you meet a threat, will you not deal with it by violence, Water?

If someone threatens me with violence, I will use equal or greater force to respond.

the difference between anarcho-capitalism and anarcho-pacifism is that ancaps allow for the defense of yourself and others.

I think we might have jumped a little too far off, let's go back a little. Are you an ancap just because you want the right to self-defense and believe in owning land and yourself? And why specifically ancap?

eeech i don’t *really* believe in it so much as most others, but the non-aggression principle is a pretty good base for ancap philosophy.

Essentially anarcho-capitalism is against the initiation of violence, but isn’t against retaliation.

I’m mostly an ancap because it’s the natural conclusion of the “don’t start shit” attitude, if you’ll pardon my French.

It is a basis for manchildren that haven't realised that sometimes you'll have to fight for your ideals, belifes and those you hold dear

So you're an ancap that is not interested in either capitalism or anarchism, but rather the early USA

I was gonna bring that up.

An ancap socitey will basically be destroyed by those who do realise this

The early USA was minarchist, which is basically one step above ancaps.

@Krille P. explain a direct threat to me or my way of life that doesn’t involve violence?

Change of values around you and implicit violence that will only happen when you're old and too weak to act

The spread of communism, degeneracy, the destruction of culture, etc.

So what you’re saying is, the biggest threat to anarcho-capitalist society is people deciding not to be anarcho-capitalist?

The biggest threats to anarcho-capitalism are that egoism and in-group preference exist

But ancap is a theory based in egoism, making it pointless anyway

You didn't ask about that, I have alredy explained the biggest treath to an an-cap "society" (which would be nothing more than a bunch of local warlords with private militias waring for total dominance)

What makes you think that?

also one at a time, let’s be respectful of each other’s discussion and make sure everything is addressed.

ancaps act as if everyone in their society wanted to play 1000D chess to find out everything about everyone and even then be unable to play beneath the law

i don’t know who you’ve been talking to, but i just advocate non-aggression.

How about being natural and rallying behind a tribal leader that will take care of your village and make it grow and prosper?

if you’d like to object to something i actually believe in, be my guest.

Ancap isn't really true anarchism, since corporations effectively replace the conventional state

oh no

it’s retarded