Message from @The Big Oof

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2019-01-20 23:11:26 UTC  

I try to expand my understanding

2019-01-20 23:11:32 UTC  

But it will never be enough

2019-01-20 23:12:52 UTC  

That is what my thought process is

2019-01-20 23:12:54 UTC  

It's not

2019-01-20 23:12:59 UTC  

and this is what pissed me off earlier

2019-01-20 23:13:03 UTC  

which is why debates involving religious objectivity vs atheist subjectivity will always result in a stalemate

2019-01-20 23:13:03 UTC  

My thought process isn't

2019-01-20 23:13:15 UTC  

"We view morality differently so you have no basis to criticize others"

2019-01-20 23:13:18 UTC  

that's horseshit

2019-01-20 23:13:29 UTC  

unless the religious becomes atheist or the atheist converys

2019-01-20 23:14:05 UTC  

yea, I know not all subjective thinkers are "well, thats just your opinion maaaaaaaaan"

2019-01-20 23:14:18 UTC  

they arent ALL hippie retards

2019-01-20 23:14:24 UTC  

I don't argue against Christianity from a position of moral authority

2019-01-20 23:14:45 UTC  

I don't even argue against Christianity that often, I can't recall a time I have here or in other servers

2019-01-20 23:14:52 UTC  

but I'm a "fedora tipper"

2019-01-20 23:16:00 UTC  

they tend to become standstills

2019-01-20 23:16:18 UTC  

The main issue I have are these retarded standards that nobody can realistically meet

2019-01-20 23:16:28 UTC  

in these types of arguments

2019-01-20 23:16:34 UTC  

unless its evangelical vs libatheist then it turns into a cringe fest because the evangelical decided to bring up Leviticus

2019-01-21 06:47:25 UTC  

anyways

2019-01-21 06:47:29 UTC  

now that this is long over

2019-01-21 06:47:45 UTC  

someone explain to me what was wrong with me refusing to answer that extreme hypothetical presented earlier

2019-01-21 06:48:35 UTC  

`let's say you're part of society A & your group has a rampant shortage of women, which will lead to the death of your group due to lack of procreation, rape is the only option to survive. Given that morality is subjective & you are part of this group, is it morally right for you to abduct & rape the women of neighboring tribes to survive?`

2019-01-21 06:49:03 UTC  

I say, if your hypothetical has no genuine application, the hypothetical is meaningless and warrants no response

2019-01-21 06:49:16 UTC  

Also, it hinges upon a set selection of answers

2019-01-21 06:49:27 UTC  

Which is a dishonest tactic, at least in this case

2019-01-21 06:49:57 UTC  

>the only option to procreate is to rape your neighboring tribe

2019-01-21 06:50:00 UTC  

Such retarded bullshit

2019-01-21 06:50:16 UTC  

Someone let me know if and how I am wrong, because this seemed contentious earlier

2019-01-21 07:11:09 UTC  

"if God told you to molest a child, would you do it?"

2019-01-21 07:11:17 UTC  

is about as nonsensical as this question

2019-01-21 07:13:36 UTC  

This was the response I should have given earlier

2019-01-21 07:17:38 UTC  

it's also frivolous for another reason, you would expect it to be wrong when your opponents gives a "yes" answer, but, when the same question is asked towards you, with God giving these instructions (to rape another tribe), you yourself would say yes (obviously God wouldn't do that, we're playing in the realm of this retarded hypothetical)

2019-01-21 07:17:52 UTC  

So then, how does this reflect poorly on me?

2019-01-21 07:21:39 UTC  

It's also the idea of 1-0 absolutes, obviously there are greater virtues that outweight others, disobeying one to follow another isn't a good this, it's a less bad thing.

2019-01-21 07:21:44 UTC  

it's wrong when you think that I would do it, but not for you?

2019-01-21 07:22:13 UTC  

This question was just dunb

2019-01-21 07:22:35 UTC  

I'm thinking through ways it could be considered a valid question and there are none

2019-01-21 07:23:26 UTC  

If God told him to commit a cardinal sin he would do it, because piety is a higher virtue than being unsinful

2019-01-21 07:23:37 UTC  

Yeah

2019-01-21 07:24:02 UTC  

This hypothetical is meant to strip the focus down to one virtue