Message from @The Big Oof

Discord ID: 536684571580956676


2019-01-20 23:05:30 UTC  

Explain it for me

2019-01-20 23:07:13 UTC  

There is an objective right and wrong. God tells us not do to certain things, and such things are bad.

2019-01-20 23:07:25 UTC  

Well I don't believe in God

2019-01-20 23:07:35 UTC  

so I would disagree

2019-01-20 23:08:09 UTC  

Would you say that a creator of the universe has the authority to decide what is truly right and wrong

2019-01-20 23:08:46 UTC  

If the creator exists?

2019-01-20 23:08:48 UTC  

yes

2019-01-20 23:08:55 UTC  

I'm actually not sure

2019-01-20 23:09:02 UTC  

is this creator all knowing

2019-01-20 23:09:06 UTC  

yes

2019-01-20 23:09:09 UTC  

Then yes

2019-01-20 23:09:27 UTC  

Just wanted to know

2019-01-20 23:10:06 UTC  

Humans are limited in their understanding

2019-01-20 23:10:11 UTC  

That is what makes morality subjective

2019-01-20 23:10:28 UTC  

An omniscient presence would immediately make it objective

2019-01-20 23:10:54 UTC  

but u don't believe in one hence why u don't believe objective morality exists

2019-01-20 23:11:08 UTC  

@FreshWholeMilk @ImATomato

Anyways, now that I was able to explain my position, there is my reasoning above

2019-01-20 23:11:15 UTC  

so u dwell in your limited understanding

2019-01-20 23:11:26 UTC  

I try to expand my understanding

2019-01-20 23:11:32 UTC  

But it will never be enough

2019-01-20 23:12:52 UTC  

That is what my thought process is

2019-01-20 23:12:54 UTC  

It's not

2019-01-20 23:12:59 UTC  

and this is what pissed me off earlier

2019-01-20 23:13:03 UTC  

which is why debates involving religious objectivity vs atheist subjectivity will always result in a stalemate

2019-01-20 23:13:03 UTC  

My thought process isn't

2019-01-20 23:13:15 UTC  

"We view morality differently so you have no basis to criticize others"

2019-01-20 23:13:18 UTC  

that's horseshit

2019-01-20 23:13:29 UTC  

unless the religious becomes atheist or the atheist converys

2019-01-20 23:14:05 UTC  

yea, I know not all subjective thinkers are "well, thats just your opinion maaaaaaaaan"

2019-01-20 23:14:18 UTC  

they arent ALL hippie retards

2019-01-20 23:14:24 UTC  

I don't argue against Christianity from a position of moral authority

2019-01-20 23:14:45 UTC  

I don't even argue against Christianity that often, I can't recall a time I have here or in other servers

2019-01-20 23:14:52 UTC  

but I'm a "fedora tipper"

2019-01-20 23:16:00 UTC  

they tend to become standstills

2019-01-20 23:16:18 UTC  

The main issue I have are these retarded standards that nobody can realistically meet

2019-01-20 23:16:28 UTC  

in these types of arguments

2019-01-20 23:16:34 UTC  

unless its evangelical vs libatheist then it turns into a cringe fest because the evangelical decided to bring up Leviticus

2019-01-21 06:47:25 UTC  

anyways

2019-01-21 06:47:29 UTC  

now that this is long over

2019-01-21 06:47:45 UTC  

someone explain to me what was wrong with me refusing to answer that extreme hypothetical presented earlier

2019-01-21 06:48:35 UTC  

`let's say you're part of society A & your group has a rampant shortage of women, which will lead to the death of your group due to lack of procreation, rape is the only option to survive. Given that morality is subjective & you are part of this group, is it morally right for you to abduct & rape the women of neighboring tribes to survive?`