Message from @The Big Oof
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Explain it for me
There is an objective right and wrong. God tells us not do to certain things, and such things are bad.
Well I don't believe in God
so I would disagree
Would you say that a creator of the universe has the authority to decide what is truly right and wrong
If the creator exists?
yes
I'm actually not sure
is this creator all knowing
yes
Then yes
Just wanted to know
Humans are limited in their understanding
That is what makes morality subjective
An omniscient presence would immediately make it objective
but u don't believe in one hence why u don't believe objective morality exists
@FreshWholeMilk @ImATomato
Anyways, now that I was able to explain my position, there is my reasoning above
so u dwell in your limited understanding
I try to expand my understanding
But it will never be enough
It's not
and this is what pissed me off earlier
which is why debates involving religious objectivity vs atheist subjectivity will always result in a stalemate
My thought process isn't
"We view morality differently so you have no basis to criticize others"
that's horseshit
unless the religious becomes atheist or the atheist converys
yea, I know not all subjective thinkers are "well, thats just your opinion maaaaaaaaan"
they arent ALL hippie retards
I don't argue against Christianity from a position of moral authority
I don't even argue against Christianity that often, I can't recall a time I have here or in other servers
but I'm a "fedora tipper"
they tend to become standstills
The main issue I have are these retarded standards that nobody can realistically meet
in these types of arguments
unless its evangelical vs libatheist then it turns into a cringe fest because the evangelical decided to bring up Leviticus
anyways
now that this is long over
someone explain to me what was wrong with me refusing to answer that extreme hypothetical presented earlier
`let's say you're part of society A & your group has a rampant shortage of women, which will lead to the death of your group due to lack of procreation, rape is the only option to survive. Given that morality is subjective & you are part of this group, is it morally right for you to abduct & rape the women of neighboring tribes to survive?`