Message from @Bearer Of The Curse
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@AdorableStormtrooper I'm sorry, not my intention to respond to u
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The state's primary role is to sustain its own continued existence
@Bird Wizard i know all good 👌
If it can't do that, it shall be replaced
@Ventruvi and what should the state protect its citizens from
Bad goys
Role of a Nation State should be to guarantee the continued existence and reproduction of it's respective Nation
pure survival and continued existence should never be the primary goal
Use the bot room aztec @The Big Oof
by it's nature tho, the State as an organization puts it's own Survival above all else usually
arguing from that view, u can justify anything even mass immigration
yea, if its only goal is
keep the nation going
then what will it sacrifice to achieve those sole goals
i think we have different definitions of Nation
we get a society like ours
keep the goodtimes going no matter how many weak men it creates
i mean Nation in a sense where Nationality and Citizenship are different things, you can be a German National and maybe have Swiss Passport
@AdorableStormtrooper we're talking about nation in terms of a country
The state is the extension of the great leader that created that society under its fist. It's logical that the role of the state should be to unconditionally rule and to expand its society infinitely, crushing every enemy on its way.
but a state should prioritize the safety of its own citizens over others
crushing as in subjecating or pure genocide?
my definition is how it used to be tho like Jews might be citizens of a Place, but their Nationality was always said to be Jewish
ethnicity
nationality, because of the Israels policy towards diaspora
Genocide with light absorption
@Bird Wizard Theoretically, if everyone was moral, there would be no need for a state
Though, since that's impossible
@svalis and thats just a theory for a reason
A state is pretty much a requirement
so its not a tool
which is why anarcho anything
is pure retardation
Statist leave
an expansionist state cannot be a Nation State
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expansionism is dumb
empires tend to fall under their own weight
keep it in eu4 please
just look at the mongols