liberia

But you aren't, biology gives you a motive @Bearer Of The Curse

or else you wouldnt survive

But that motive is fake if there is no god

It's just something using you

Kill it

If raping babies cured AIDS, South Africa would have solved it’s AIDS problem a long time ago

Theyre not the brightest bunch unfortunatly

@Bearer Of The Curse but we are all born for motive - that is, those of our parents. Its not our own, but its still a motive. The impulse to breed and exist which is inherent to all life since the emergence of the most simple of self-replicating molecules is the motive, and it exists in every living thing.

@Bearer Of The Curse Point to an example of a country that operates like this\

Dont deal solely in hypotheticals

you need reality to back it up

or else, at the end of the day, that is all it will ever be

@The Big Oof Point to an example of a country that is logical

China is pretty logical for the most part.

yellow vest protesters might've set fire to an oil depot

50/50 it blows up

China is gay

Social credit system is too far, though

China should get promptly nuked tbh

Also, what you just did Bearer was deflect @Bearer Of The Curse

You didn't answer my question, you attempted to force me into an area you thought would I would be weaker in

so let's return to that

What can you use to prove your hypothetical as legitimate?

Yet this impulse is fake if there is no god, Xinyue, you are a machine of particles that wants to build another machine of particles ad infinitum, there is nothing special that differentiates a living you or a dead you since the energy is just converted into other things @Xinyue

theres plenty of people who believe in god and god given morality that do heinous things

its not fake @Bearer Of The Curse it exists all the same. And "machines" we are in any case, whether or not God exists. If God exists, it would only mean that we are *created machines,* as opposed to *uncreated ones*

and that distinction isn't very meaningful to me

embrace the truth of atheism 😄

the yellow vest protests are turning into a french nationalist rally

You don't really need to prove to them that it's not meaningless, you need for them to prove that it is @Xinyue

yellow vest protesters charged the european parliament yesterday

the yellow vests are interesting, both far-left and far-right in those

you shouldnt let yourself be forced into proving a negative

make them prove their assertion

and some people are talking about a "frexit"

I know that part, just the fake bit that we're getting into as a difference. If you're born with a drive, but there is no goal to that drive except continue, an endless cycle, there is not really a difference between ending it now or later

Okay, so where does this happen?

The really truly meaningful part is that, the world exists, *and we create our own meaning in it.* That, my friend, is the true divine aspect of our existence if there was ever going to be one

Did it happen in the Soviet Union?

Did it happen in China?