Message from @Nikitis
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Trotsky was a western banker confirmed
Stalin was a western banker confirmed
Bukharin was a western banker confirmed
Zioniev was a western banker confirmed
Wut
Socialism in a country like India or Cambodia or Cuba is much more fucked up
They were certainly agents of western bankers
responding to Fresh's insane talking points
Lol
Russian social democratic labour party was a western banker confirmed
wasn't Trotsky from New York?
Transcaucasian communist party was a western banker confirmed
Ukrainian Communist Party was a western banker confirmed
genuinely unintelligent points here
The Soviet Union was just a failed social experiment
On an otherwise smart and productive population
Read *tragedy and hope*. Quigley was a supporter of the Anglo-American establishment, and he reveals all this
Socialists in Russia were at various times backed by big money interests (👃) in the West, cmoon mate can't deny that
Denying the banks involvement in the USSR is antisemetic
whole lot of these revolutionary leads weren't from anywhere near the Russian Empire
its not reducible to backing, you can back any faction but that alone means nothing. U.S threw billions at Syrian rebels and it did jack shit, what matters ultimately is the conditions and motivations of people on the ground
*financially* backing
But you miss the larger point
“Why would bankers support communism”
oy vey
if the mujahiddeen weren't religious theist zealots no amount of money thrown at them would've been able to defeat the Soviet occupation, it came to the material goods + financial backing + the fact they weren't afraid of death and indeed pursued it on the field
Because it wouldn't work without capitalist money
shut this down
And it still didn't work
Which is why it collapsed
Of course socialism doesn't emerge without capitalism. This is Marxist theory 101
literally is one of the basic concepts
Then why portray capitalism as evil
Communism is not opposed to the bankers. Marx never once criticised them
```if the mujahiddeen weren't religious theist zealots no amount of money thrown at them would've been able to defeat the Soviet occupation, it came to the material goods + financial backing + the fact they weren't afraid of death and indeed pursued it on the field```
that is true, there was corruption on the ground in Russia, that's why what happened to them happened, they weren't just victims.. solzhenitsyn wrote extensively about it..
but you're distracting from the point..
because something can outstay its welcome and actually become monstrous as time goes on. As happened with capitalism, as happened with feudalism etc. All of these emerged due to a distinct epoch of conditions being present, and each was done away with the moment they became superfluous.
We're all in the pre-communist phase according to not gay reddit
well yes,