> *people*

pretty much actually

lul

@Xinyue they used to apparently be socialist (don't buy it)

and btw - the lack of mention of MOP is *pretty low bar even for social democracy, which is still supposed to give a shit about social ownership to some degree*

like

it gets to the point where

but a lot of socialists did actually leave the party when it became more liberalised

I'm not sure PSOE is good enough for the socdem label

PSOE is the welfare party

but all our parties are welfare parties

and we are all obsessed on immigration and copying scandinavia

what a gay fucking country...

and we're more preoccupied on feminism than our fucking economy

also, REMOVE

CATALONIAS

It's like that in every west European country

AUTONOMY

every party these days is about welfare, UBI, etc. mostly because those things do nothing to challenge the actual system of power, so the establishment peddles it. and, gets the population complacent.

FFS

^

^^^^

but the sick thing about this is, the moment peope have this, they don't want to give it up

the parties that offer this

will instantly gain support

^

and once people are accomodated to this

people can't live without it

free uni tho...

this has been the plan ever since the 19th c., and it's suceeded exponentally

uni should be free tho lul

The mainstream population of the west has been brainwashed by social liberalism since atleast the 70s

Welfare is literally like a drug

you're dependent on it, you want more of it, you can't get off it

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I'd say that there's nothing wrong with social services, they can be rights, but it must be counterposed to actual duties.

as in USSR for example

you can thank Bismarck for this, among aothers

Prussian Socialism

> Prussian
> socialism

pick one

nothing wrong with social services, but not to the extent that people practically make 800 euros without doing anything a monthly