fine

Either you're right or you're wrong

“Unless one is born of water and of the spirit, he shall not enter the Kingdom of God”

it takes a little bit of common sense

Yes but water, Christ ment something with that

for example when he was pierced with the spear

a stream of blood and water came out seperately from eachother

So it’s not a shower now, it’s just metaphor?

People who counter signal all denominations and organized chirstianity remind me of anarchists

baptism is a vow one makes to be a believer

nothing more

Civilized humans organize themselves into groups that are in charge and have a formal process for making decisions

John the Baptist literally dunked people in water

dont rely on humans for salvation

trust no man but god

You’re literally trusting yourself to interpret the texts

no thats the spirit

This fetish for a world in which every asshole runs wild and there's no state, no laws, no formalized morality/theology that the people agree on is retarded

im not an anarchist

obey the laws of the land

unto caesar what is unto caesar

So the Spirit guides you but not the thousands of sects that disagree with you?

nope because they put their faith in men

and doctrine

thinking abiding by the rules of the bible saves them

You put your faith in a man, *yourself*

no i put my faith in god

Why don’t you even capitalise His name then

do you think he cares about such nonsense?

Did it not occur to you that perhaps Jesus may have put certain humans in charge of preaching his message after he left this world?

Does he care about anything?

he cares about us yes

Because he literally did in the Bible

the apostles were the first true believers

"Trust God, not men! ...well, trust Peter I guess, and Paul..."

What would happen if you believed in God, and then massacred a whole family and were killed in the process?

what do you think would happen

Would you be ushered into heaven?

do you think god just takes shit like that?

It’s a work

ofcourse not