Message from @FreshWholeMilk

Discord ID: 523405434929938444


2018-12-15 07:43:16 UTC  

*for the letter kills*

2018-12-15 07:43:20 UTC  

The idea of denominations and doctrines is to present something as the truth about Christ and being a Christian.

2018-12-15 07:43:37 UTC  

you dont need a bible to believe in god

2018-12-15 07:43:49 UTC  

the law was written in the hearts of men

2018-12-15 07:43:57 UTC  

You need the bible to believe in the true God

2018-12-15 07:43:58 UTC  

Like baptism, how should a Christian be baptized when, etc

2018-12-15 07:44:09 UTC  

Different churches disagree

2018-12-15 07:44:15 UTC  

You just need to take a shower

2018-12-15 07:44:17 UTC  

its just a ritual of water

2018-12-15 07:44:22 UTC  

Presumably someone is wrong and someone is right

2018-12-15 07:44:24 UTC  

there is no magic ooga booga involved

2018-12-15 07:44:38 UTC  

it is symbolic

2018-12-15 07:45:03 UTC  

What you just said is you presenting your position, your doctrine

2018-12-15 07:45:12 UTC  

fine

2018-12-15 07:45:13 UTC  

Either you're right or you're wrong

2018-12-15 07:45:18 UTC  

“Unless one is born of water and of the spirit, he shall not enter the Kingdom of God”

2018-12-15 07:45:23 UTC  

it takes a little bit of common sense

2018-12-15 07:45:44 UTC  

Yes but water, Christ ment something with that

2018-12-15 07:45:53 UTC  

for example when he was pierced with the spear

2018-12-15 07:46:03 UTC  

a stream of blood and water came out seperately from eachother

2018-12-15 07:46:20 UTC  

So it’s not a shower now, it’s just metaphor?

2018-12-15 07:46:25 UTC  

People who counter signal all denominations and organized chirstianity remind me of anarchists

2018-12-15 07:46:37 UTC  

baptism is a vow one makes to be a believer

2018-12-15 07:46:42 UTC  

nothing more

2018-12-15 07:47:20 UTC  

Civilized humans organize themselves into groups that are in charge and have a formal process for making decisions

2018-12-15 07:47:30 UTC  

John the Baptist literally dunked people in water

2018-12-15 07:47:36 UTC  

dont rely on humans for salvation

2018-12-15 07:47:39 UTC  

trust no man but god

2018-12-15 07:48:07 UTC  

You’re literally trusting yourself to interpret the texts

2018-12-15 07:48:16 UTC  

no thats the spirit

2018-12-15 07:48:18 UTC  

This fetish for a world in which every asshole runs wild and there's no state, no laws, no formalized morality/theology that the people agree on is retarded

2018-12-15 07:48:32 UTC  

im not an anarchist

2018-12-15 07:48:36 UTC  

obey the laws of the land

2018-12-15 07:48:43 UTC  

unto caesar what is unto caesar

2018-12-15 07:48:44 UTC  

So the Spirit guides you but not the thousands of sects that disagree with you?

2018-12-15 07:48:53 UTC  

nope because they put their faith in men

2018-12-15 07:48:58 UTC  

and doctrine

2018-12-15 07:49:06 UTC  

thinking abiding by the rules of the bible saves them

2018-12-15 07:49:18 UTC  

You put your faith in a man, *yourself*

2018-12-15 07:49:26 UTC  

no i put my faith in god

2018-12-15 07:49:43 UTC  

Why don’t you even capitalise His name then