Message from @Deleted User

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2018-12-15 08:21:14 UTC  

those that say they believe in god

2018-12-15 08:21:14 UTC  

We enter it ignorant and must learn

2018-12-15 08:21:17 UTC  

yet just do evil stuff

2018-12-15 08:21:21 UTC  

to them he will say

2018-12-15 08:21:27 UTC  

i have never known you

2018-12-15 08:21:37 UTC  

thereby pointing out that they did not truly believe at all

2018-12-15 08:22:11 UTC  

a christian life means being a good person. and yes, the bible is god's word. the bible says to give your life for your friend is an expression of the greatest love

2018-12-15 08:22:16 UTC  

the bible also says the letter kills

2018-12-15 08:22:34 UTC  

so to read the bible to save another person or teach him is to give your life

2018-12-15 08:22:38 UTC  

At this point I am convinced that the debate is based solely on different ways of communicating the same thing

2018-12-15 08:22:51 UTC  

the only thing im pointing out is

2018-12-15 08:23:04 UTC  

do not rely on your works thinking you will be saved because of them

2018-12-15 08:23:09 UTC  

rely on your faith

2018-12-15 08:23:23 UTC  

You say faith alone, I say faith without works is dead, but we both believe that a man of faith must live his faith out

2018-12-15 08:23:23 UTC  

god does not love boasters

2018-12-15 08:23:37 UTC  

well he does love them

2018-12-15 08:23:42 UTC  

but he isnt satisfied with them

2018-12-15 08:24:24 UTC  

yes but even if one is not a believer, one is already a good person most of the time

2018-12-15 08:24:30 UTC  

so works isnt really that much of an issue

2018-12-15 08:24:33 UTC  

just be a good person

2018-12-15 08:24:38 UTC  

The point you're getting at is without God's freely given offer of salvation to us, we would fall short

2018-12-15 08:24:55 UTC  

yes

2018-12-15 08:24:58 UTC  

all glory to christ

2018-12-15 08:25:00 UTC  

all glory to god

2018-12-15 08:25:01 UTC  

So the source of our hope is God

2018-12-15 08:25:04 UTC  

yes

2018-12-15 08:25:09 UTC  

Well duh

2018-12-15 08:25:20 UTC  

if you were to present to him and say

2018-12-15 08:25:27 UTC  

i have helped 50 people, i have done this and i have done that

2018-12-15 08:25:36 UTC  

he will probably say something like, you have fallen hort

2018-12-15 08:25:38 UTC  

short*

2018-12-15 08:25:44 UTC  

if this is how you present yourself to me

2018-12-15 08:25:48 UTC  

for why didnt you have faith?

2018-12-15 08:25:59 UTC  

but

2018-12-15 08:26:02 UTC  

he wont throw that person into hell

2018-12-15 08:26:08 UTC  

he will just point this out

2018-12-15 08:26:08 UTC  

Yet, let us never become complacent and pretend that it is acceptable to sin because we have faith

2018-12-15 08:26:35 UTC  

youre forgetting about god's grace

2018-12-15 08:26:38 UTC  

grace has defeaten sin

2018-12-15 08:26:42 UTC  

No I'm not!

2018-12-15 08:26:45 UTC  

sin no longer applies