Message from @AdorableStormtrooper

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2018-12-16 15:58:39 UTC  

@Xinyue <:brainlet:508484031625691156>

2018-12-16 15:58:47 UTC  

capitalism is materialistic

2018-12-16 15:58:53 UTC  

^

2018-12-16 15:59:05 UTC  

as an Ideological Goal it is

2018-12-16 15:59:15 UTC  

that Evola quote for example absolutely disregards that Marxism is *not* merely about just "muh distribution, muh goods", there's a content of meaning to it and reasoning for what is essential to human beings, why we exist and what we ought to strive towards

2018-12-16 15:59:25 UTC  

but trust people who never read Marx and Engels to be oblivious to this

2018-12-16 15:59:43 UTC  

lmao

2018-12-16 15:59:44 UTC  

but it sprouted due to inequality of the material wealth

2018-12-16 15:59:45 UTC  

it's an ideology

2018-12-16 15:59:47 UTC  

we get it

2018-12-16 15:59:58 UTC  

the entirety of marxist philosophy is based on economics

2018-12-16 16:00:07 UTC  

it's a lifestyle

2018-12-16 16:00:07 UTC  

and economic relationships

2018-12-16 16:00:13 UTC  

like Libertarianism

2018-12-16 16:00:32 UTC  

"y-you've just never read kapital!"

2018-12-16 16:01:09 UTC  

Yes, the philosophy posits that men are shaped by their environment, which is readily observable, and will therefore react to the environment - specifically the relationship between men's objective needs and objects of those needs. But this is merely one part of Marxism, the explanation for why the world is as it is, why history develops as it does, and what can be expected from the future. The entire discourse on labour and its significance to man is outside this analysis.

2018-12-16 16:01:48 UTC  

You're ignoring the other half of the Equation with the statement about Environment and People

2018-12-16 16:01:57 UTC  

go on?

2018-12-16 16:02:50 UTC  

most of us ignore the soul of the person as well

2018-12-16 16:02:54 UTC  

People are not a blank slate, different groups of people will react to different environments in different ways such that they're predictible

2018-12-16 16:03:10 UTC  

@Bird Wizard marxists think feels don't reals

2018-12-16 16:03:23 UTC  

shhhiet

2018-12-16 16:03:49 UTC  

Yes, people who accumulated those differences due to their unique environments. Darwin literally proves the entire viewpoint. The individual differences in genes are selected for *by the environment.* It is the *environment* that moulds people.

2018-12-16 16:03:51 UTC  

*NO FEELZ ALLOWED TODAY*

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/523893027257712670/images5-01.jpeg

2018-12-16 16:04:08 UTC  

Like jfc

2018-12-16 16:04:30 UTC  

darwin is a marxist confirmed

2018-12-16 16:04:31 UTC  

```Yes, people who accumulated those differences due to their unique environments. Darwin literally proves the entire viewpoint. The individual differences in genes are selected for by the environment. It is the environment that moulds people.```

over hundreds of thousands of years that is 😩

2018-12-16 16:04:43 UTC  

Not even that. Much, much shorter timespans

2018-12-16 16:04:46 UTC  

generational ones

2018-12-16 16:05:05 UTC  

provide evidence that supports your claim

2018-12-16 16:05:05 UTC  

example?

2018-12-16 16:05:48 UTC  

arguing genes and environmental effects is also materialistic

2018-12-16 16:06:10 UTC  

it took white people 50,000 years of divergent evolution to advance two standard deviations of IQ over Africans

2018-12-16 16:06:13 UTC  

If you place people in an extreme enough environment, this can select for new type of group in just couple of generations compared to the group as it was on arrival. Because those who cannot adopt to the extreme environment will be cast out. Lets for the sake of argument take Antarctica as the environment in question.

2018-12-16 16:06:43 UTC  

???????????????

2018-12-16 16:06:48 UTC  

u do understand what you're implying, you're implying a survival of the fittest

2018-12-16 16:07:01 UTC  

dumping someone on antartica to see if he's going to surivive

2018-12-16 16:07:14 UTC  

Yes I do. But this proves the environment as essential and primary to the individual or "muh people"

2018-12-16 16:07:20 UTC  

so if we took a bunch of gorillas and put them in antarctica and kept putting gorillas in antarctica they were rapidly evolve

2018-12-16 16:07:26 UTC  

that's not the argument