Message from @Honey Beanger

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2018-12-17 04:23:07 UTC  

@Spookaswa Stalin was he lynchpin, without him the leadership would disintegrate because he had terrorized everyone for so long

2018-12-17 04:23:43 UTC  

In fact much of the war showed how the Red Army fought well without Stalin's interference

2018-12-17 04:24:09 UTC  

2018-12-17 04:24:19 UTC  

this is a complete non-point not only because of USSR would've kept going even if they got to Stalin, but also because Stalin wouldn't ever have stayed in Moscow to face certain death

2018-12-17 04:24:35 UTC  

Moscow isn't to USSR in 1941 what Berlin is to Germany in 1945

2018-12-17 04:25:11 UTC  

Moscow would have been Stalingrad in 1941, at the center of the soviet supply grid, with no Volga to block soviet reinforcements

2018-12-17 04:25:21 UTC  

It would have been a slaughterhouse for germans

2018-12-17 04:25:38 UTC  

> Stalin was he lynchpin, without him the leadership would disintegrate because he had terrorized everyone for so long

except no, not at all true. If this was true, USSR would've collapsed in 1954. You demonstrate insufficient knowledge in the Soviet political life if you think this was the case.

2018-12-17 04:26:13 UTC  

Yeah Germans were always going to lose the war

2018-12-17 04:26:30 UTC  

if for no other reason, then for the depth of defense in USSR and the resource/oil angle

2018-12-17 04:26:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/524079978086662163/image0.jpg

2018-12-17 04:26:49 UTC  

@Xinyue Russia wasn't at war in 1954 you dumb knee grow

2018-12-17 04:27:10 UTC  

It hadn't just gone through the purges

2018-12-17 04:27:30 UTC  

USSR was in war when majority of the Western part of the Union collapsed. But the USSR never collapsed during this, seemingly inevitable defeat, like the French did

2018-12-17 04:27:31 UTC  

again

2018-12-17 04:27:34 UTC  

you don't get Soviets

2018-12-17 04:28:12 UTC  

1991 would disagree

2018-12-17 04:28:18 UTC  

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2018-12-17 04:28:20 UTC  

....that has no relevance to this

2018-12-17 04:28:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/524080406497198080/image0.jpg

2018-12-17 04:28:31 UTC  

The German high command expected a war similar to France where they could take points of strategic importance and have their enemy capitulate, not the war of attrition at such a massive scale that they got

2018-12-17 04:28:38 UTC  

Yeah

2018-12-17 04:28:45 UTC  

and the resource angle is devastating for the German side

2018-12-17 04:28:50 UTC  

they were literally running out of oil

2018-12-17 04:29:02 UTC  

and Stalingrad evaporated all possibility of ever getting more

2018-12-17 04:29:11 UTC  

>oil meme

2018-12-17 04:29:11 UTC  

That’s why they should have never gone after Moscow and kept driving into the Caucasus

2018-12-17 04:29:20 UTC  

>what was romania

2018-12-17 04:29:24 UTC  

> oil meme

literally is fact about how the USSR won the war

2018-12-17 04:29:30 UTC  

Romania wouldn't be enough

2018-12-17 04:29:31 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-17 04:29:36 UTC  

The Allies won the war*

2018-12-17 04:29:47 UTC  

Other countries contributed to

2018-12-17 04:29:56 UTC  

Including the French resistance and polish resistance

2018-12-17 04:30:13 UTC  

Just because Romania had oil doesn’t mean it could supply the entire Wehrmacht lol

2018-12-17 04:30:37 UTC  

You would need to take British and French colonies in the Middle East in order to not worry about the oil issue, for a few years at least

2018-12-17 04:30:44 UTC  

What did the Wehrmacht fucking run on before 1941

2018-12-17 04:30:48 UTC  

Thin air?

2018-12-17 04:30:55 UTC  

They ran on Oil

2018-12-17 04:30:56 UTC  

watch the vid, Leaf