Wikipedia only allows SPLC and ADL following activists to edit political stuff and then lock the page

Oh yes "muh Wikipedia is tainted by leftists" - is this why Wiki subscribes to anticommunist propaganda and calls Venezuela a dictatorship? 😂

it is though

dude... it's leftist in the liberal sense

wiki can be edited by anyone

@Xinyue are you retarded

And conservatism is derived from liberalism, what is your point ? @aymem

Like genuine question.

@aymem it is fascist in the 21st century sense though, arguably. Also communist parties are currently experiencing a rebound in popularity. Partly because fascism has been growing, but in larger part no doubt driven by automation and the displacement it causes

@Xinyue Fascism is a enlightenment born Modernist ideology, you're describing them as Reactionary which they're not

@Khat Emperor what?

>venezuela is fascist

LOL

lol

Who said Venezuela is fascist?

liberal =/= leftist

Reactionaries are worse than fascists

Read it slowly @aymem

nobody said Venezuela is fascist

The serb is showing his amazing reading skills again, don't mind

anyone who isn't a commie isn't a leftist. - Xinu the Commie

no

says that as the most matter of fact thing too

@Xinyue it isn't fascist in any sense, the nucleus of fascism is nationalism, fascism (nationalism) has been dead for a long time, the only resurgence you'll get of anything remotely fascistic would be nationalism, and even then it won't be fascism. And in the 21st century sense you have 2 examples of parties that you would call Fascist, one that is actually Fascist in that it actually follows the fascist tenets and doctrine, and one that is an ethno nationalist nativistic party

anyone who isn't a socialist isn't a leftist. communists, mutualists, anarchists, syndicalists, communalists, democratic confederalists, etc. etc. these are the left. the rest are just centrists

@Khat Emperor i'm not really focused on what you're saying, what is your point

Watching pseuds fight is hilarious

@Xinyue by the spectrum of a socialist dude... don't be a retard

everyone uses the liberal spectrum

"left" and "right" are utterly meaningless concepts outside property relation

the property relation is what gives them meaning

Muh postmodernism

left wing = prioritises social ownership
right wing = prioritises private ownership

and we see this even happen! by and large, ancaps, conservatives, economic liberals, etc. are considered to be right-wing, and social democrats, socialists, communists etc. are considered to be left wing. the property analysis is valid whether or not you like it

That is not a good way to tell the left from the right at all

it doesn't matter though, this is how it's defined by your side, but you're an extremely small minority, you can't expect most people to use your definition

the liberal definition is the mainstream definition

its literally the only definition of left and right that can ever hope to be objective and, therefore, useful

It's like you forgot left libertarians exist

:/

left libertarians by and large still want social ownership, such as libertarian marxists, libertarian socialists, anarcho-syndicalists etc

I disagree