Message from @aymem

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2018-12-18 12:17:41 UTC  

Ethnic groups, over time, have grown closer together not further apart

2018-12-18 12:17:41 UTC  

Ideology is not faith, it doesnt provide an objective morals nor

2018-12-18 12:17:46 UTC  

the "muh ethos" stuff is a myth lmao

2018-12-18 12:17:49 UTC  

@Xinyue why do you think so?

2018-12-18 12:17:59 UTC  

In your world it wouldnt make snese to divide the workers with ethnic struggle

2018-12-18 12:18:02 UTC  

Germany, Finland, France, China, Japan etc. This happens all over the world.

2018-12-18 12:18:14 UTC  

ever-increasing unification is the trend in history

2018-12-18 12:18:14 UTC  

>WHY
>DO
>YOU
>THINK
>SO

2018-12-18 12:18:18 UTC  

*the "muh ethos" stuff is a myth lmao*

Oof

2018-12-18 12:18:23 UTC  

Rekt

2018-12-18 12:18:27 UTC  

Did you even pay attention to what happened in those countries?

2018-12-18 12:18:39 UTC  

yes... this is why i'm asking you

2018-12-18 12:18:43 UTC  

muh class conflict

2018-12-18 12:18:55 UTC  

they weren't unified because "lul you know what would be gucci?"

2018-12-18 12:18:58 UTC  

With Liberalism people become disconnected from their nations as a whole so it's not suprising they start to unify over a common threat

2018-12-18 12:19:42 UTC  

I doubt the world would fully unite the instant communism becomes fully global, but it would eventually happen once the world is "prepared" to unite

2018-12-18 12:19:42 UTC  

Liberalism in practice posits that man is an atomized individual divided from his surroundings.

2018-12-18 12:19:52 UTC  

A Consumer, simply put

2018-12-18 12:19:53 UTC  

China, Japan, Finland, Germany. All of them have further unified, not drifted further apart. There's no longer any Aizu Domain or Matsumae Domain; there's no longer several kingdoms vying for power in China. The various independent cliques of Germany are in practice gone, as are the various tribes of Finland that used to be hostile to one another and very, very separate.

2018-12-18 12:20:02 UTC  

....

2018-12-18 12:20:11 UTC  

what did i say?

2018-12-18 12:20:16 UTC  

do you think they unified just because?

2018-12-18 12:20:24 UTC  

Nations themselves *emerged* as repudiation of earlier forms of separation

2018-12-18 12:20:32 UTC  

its built-in to the very concept of nation

2018-12-18 12:20:34 UTC  

i'm not talking about nations

2018-12-18 12:20:54 UTC  

*then why do you want their destruction for that one ethnos?*

Wait are you talking to me?

2018-12-18 12:20:56 UTC  

i'm talking about why do you think we're unifying

2018-12-18 12:21:11 UTC  

they unified due to material and technical conditions; there was incentive towards unification, threats from foreign lands and further internal prosperity

2018-12-18 12:21:16 UTC  

@ImATomato yes, but i'm talking to the finngolian

2018-12-18 12:21:43 UTC  

>they unified due to material and technical conditions; there was incentive towards unification,

Derived from what?

> threats from foreign lands and further internal prosperity

whay do we call this?

2018-12-18 12:21:51 UTC  

greed=

2018-12-18 12:21:58 UTC  

what happened here?

2018-12-18 12:22:09 UTC  

marxist clusterfuck

2018-12-18 12:22:15 UTC  

w e w

2018-12-18 12:22:33 UTC  

And the same exact pressures are present today, albeit in a different form, pushing towards ever greater unification of the various countries of the earth. There's immense incentive towards ever-closer association of nations. The ***only question*** is how this will look like, on what terms this is achieved.

2018-12-18 12:22:36 UTC  

we're talking about how nations are coming togetehr rather than spreading apart

2018-12-18 12:22:45 UTC  

you're not answering my questions

2018-12-18 12:22:49 UTC  

can't see that happening any time soon

2018-12-18 12:22:55 UTC  

you're using the idea of unification through force as your reasoning

2018-12-18 12:22:59 UTC  

and also as a means from struggle

2018-12-18 12:23:00 UTC  

wait, what the fuck?