Message from @Hagre
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>The cultures of the fiefdoms that unified in these countries had also radically different histories
One was nationalism, the other threat of imperialism, and the 3rd is a fucking island
@Xinyue after you respond we'll leave it for now because we've been talking for like 2 or 3 hours I think, it was fun though
Ultimately, the ethnicist can only comprehend the world through a system of established nation-states; for him it is incomprehensible that, as a new world culture emerges (which is currently in process of emerging and, due to its bourgeois character is shit), the distinctions between countries are going to melt away.
This has been the process throughout history. From disparate families into tribes, from tribes into fiefdoms, from fiefdoms to kingdoms, from kingdoms to empires and unified nation states, from empires and unified nation states to global trade blocs. And, only one step is left to take and the process has reached its logical conclusion.
the ethnicist?
i don't know the ethnic identitarian
whatever
me?
or are you quoting something?
the idea of distinction between countries melting away sounds disgusting
to a degree it is true.
I've already explained how liberalism uproots a nation from it's natural state
if you mean in regards to how nation-states unite, then maybe
I know i said i'd stop but i just want to say one thing
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The view of the USSR was that it was going to happen gradually and via ever-closer cooperation and ultimately on terms acceptable to the countries themselves. But the capitalists push it hard whether or not you like it, and on a timeframe that suits their interests.
I'm an ethno-pluralist, but still an internationalist, and society constantly evolves and becomes bigger bigger in terms of civilisation, these things **Do Not** contradict eachother @Xinyue i'll talk about it later
It doesnt uproot individuals from the nation, it uproots them from any form of sociality that doesnt involve it's members to be perfectly interchangeable.
I mean I myself am a pro-nation internationalist
in that i don't actively seek their destruction
Sampi ? @ImATomato
but I do view the emergence of the world culture as inevitability
@Khat Emperor Saami idk what they're spelled
Lol
Isn't it sapmi
They are eurasian
Lmao
the ones that herd reindeers and shit
Ye
Yeah i know what you mean, but they are eurasians living in finland
Saami people yeah
imagine having your identity revolve around herding those stupid animals
they got fucked over pretty hard
they even made a movie about it and it was shit
Really
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> imagine having your identity revolve around herding those stupid animals
there's a reservoir of irony to be found here
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Oh boi