see,

Nigga your just claiming its subjective because ????

Again you have no argument

morality is fundamentally different from person to person, from culture to culture, from epoch to epoch. *If* there is one golden standard for morality, it must be

```If it causes pain, it is wrong```

This is probably the only objective standard that we can hope for, and it doesn't come from God. God, being unseen, unproven, unsensed and uninvolved, isn't a factor in the relations between living beings which are seen, are proven, sensed and involved.

But what if I'm a sadist?

>pain

>subjective experiences are objective standards

What???

So you agree wanking is wrong?

Pain is good

Well, lets add consent there

Are you legit tarded?

Consent is immoral, change my mind

Not as retarded as the man who invokes the unseen, the unproven and the untangible as an argument

That is actually stupid

at a level very unbecoming of a 21st century man

300 B.C.E primitive man? sure

not now though, after what we've learned of the world

>unproven and untangible

Nigga quit spwing nonsense

Careful there,

You’re tipping too hard for us

You can infer gravity can't you?

Everyone transvaluate in 3 seconds

You can infer logic can't you?

You are invoking a creator who hasn't in any way made himself manifest in the universe he allegedly created. Seems pretty dumb to me.

Well ur a communist

that is actually a weak argument

*what is the holy Bible*?

Hello

book in all likelihood authored by men

Hello afrikan dude

Turn back, this is peak fedora rn

These sound like neo atheist arguments to me

oh yes, disbelief in god is fedora huh, when you cannot make a single cogent argument

Lol you're the one whose only response to Deontological arguments is *lol you psycho*

You have decided to believe a book authored by a bunch of desert-wandering jews in an iron age desert fiefdom.

That, to me, is not impressive proof. You must believe anything then, and probably aren't a very astute person.

Again, no arguments and all ad hominems

There is no argument

for your particular God

when the theologian argues for god,

he always argues for a *general concept*