Message from @Spookaswa

Discord ID: 526430624198950914


2018-12-23 16:03:51 UTC  

Bernie Sanders

2018-12-23 16:03:51 UTC  

is

2018-12-23 16:03:52 UTC  

a

2018-12-23 16:03:52 UTC  

show me one person that does

2018-12-23 16:03:55 UTC  

communist

2018-12-23 16:04:01 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-23 16:04:08 UTC  
2018-12-23 16:04:25 UTC  

Uhm, it's Stolypinian, respect my pronouns.

2018-12-23 16:04:29 UTC  

No that's not the point @AdorableStormtrooper the point is that Cortez etc. are equally dishonest vs. socialism

2018-12-23 16:04:47 UTC  

did you read her mind?

2018-12-23 16:04:54 UTC  

you're attributing intention

2018-12-23 16:05:06 UTC  

"Democratic Socialism" is essentially the position that MOP should be jointly managed but that there can be no compromise on the democratic character of the institutions that facilitate this

2018-12-23 16:05:08 UTC  

that's it

2018-12-23 16:05:26 UTC  

Cortez isn't about this

2018-12-23 16:05:27 UTC  

at all

2018-12-23 16:05:50 UTC  

And they want to get to the Socialist state from the Contemporary Capitalism through Democratic means

2018-12-23 16:06:26 UTC  

I want ms. Courtezan to provide me with a free """""""healthcare""""" and foot massage :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

2018-12-23 16:06:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/526430451171196939/image0.png

2018-12-23 16:06:58 UTC  

this is why they want to end capitalism

2018-12-23 16:07:12 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-23 16:07:21 UTC  

Why buy it when the state and give it to you for free

2018-12-23 16:07:49 UTC  

> And they want to get to the Socialist state from the Contemporary Capitalism through Democratic means

....this is literally social democracy

2018-12-23 16:07:50 UTC  

and

2018-12-23 16:08:01 UTC  

they never speak of anything even remotely "socialist" in content

2018-12-23 16:08:08 UTC  

so I discount it as posturing or rhetoric

2018-12-23 16:08:11 UTC  

nope, socdems want Capitalism to stay

2018-12-23 16:08:15 UTC  

illiterate

2018-12-23 16:08:19 UTC  

Socialism is when the government does things

2018-12-23 16:08:20 UTC  

no u

2018-12-23 16:08:28 UTC  

social democracy *emerged* specifically to bring socialism via democratic means

2018-12-23 16:08:31 UTC  

If a person wants to live in society, he is a socialist.

2018-12-23 16:08:35 UTC  

read Kautsky

2018-12-23 16:08:41 UTC  

Literally in the name, people!

2018-12-23 16:08:52 UTC  

~~socialism is when you starve your people and work them to death because muh heavy industry~~

2018-12-23 16:08:53 UTC  

Socialism was quickly abandoned by Soc Dems

2018-12-23 16:08:59 UTC  

read Kautsky, read Lassalle, read socdem authors

2018-12-23 16:09:00 UTC  

theories change over time 😩 @Xinyue

2018-12-23 16:09:18 UTC  

It is about having a process of socialization to remove the dominance of capitalism

2018-12-23 16:09:19 UTC  

just like Marxism has changed.. you are Outdated in all these Spheres

2018-12-23 16:09:20 UTC  

@Xinyue how can an illiterate read a book

2018-12-23 16:09:23 UTC  

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