Message from @AdorableStormtrooper
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Not sure about the last part. In the modern and XXth century terms it meant equal opportunity and strive for material good.
going by wiki definition of the american dream it states all this nonsense about equal rights for all, democracy, etc.
But I do quite vividly remember how it was advertised, presenting the nuclear family as a lead example of successful American dream.
America was a Mistake.
Death to America
That does sound different in a good way to how I remembered it. I would say that the "man and woman" part simply distinguishes that each gender may attain said dream, no word about the family unit.
But yeah, it was corrupted, just like everything Am*rica produced.
I guess I failed to see the appeals to ego behind it all, I only saw the family being a family. Man the provider and the woman a housewife. What I didn't see is that they also lived in a spacious house, had a good car, backyard pool as well as plentiful feasts.
a lesser character would chase the material dream
America is 99% lesser characters though.
Not to assume, but I didn't see anything about family, at least from the text excerpt you provided (which seems to be the original text that coined the phrase), which makes it almost egalitarian. What you said about the family values may be your wishful thinking to see this "American Dream" as something better than it is.
I'm not talking about how the scholars defined it, I'm talking about how it was advertised and presented to the regular people of the US as well as non-americans
>u can raise ur children in comfort and safety
do u see what I'm getting at
America paved the way for destruction of Nation States in Europe..
normalized multi ethnic multi Cultural societies in Western Europe, plus gave home to Russian Jews in their academia
all of this was imported to Europe eventually
even now the attempt with EU, is to create a United States of Europe.. a cultureless rootless global empire of capitalism
from my view it's an illegitimate country built on false principles
oh this vid also makes me realize how the boomers got played during the cold war.
Well James Adams is a freelance writer rather than a scholar. As for the regular people, you can see that the advertisements and products have reduced their society to materialism early on.
The artistic movement of Pop-Art, for instance, in late 1950s was a response exactly to the type of society America was becoming; a soulless, consumerist nation. If these ideals you present were ever in place, they weren't around untainted for long.
The undercurrent of soulless corporatism and mindless consumerism was always there, simply hidden by "the family values", which was an excuse for more consumption.
obviously the material and the ads are littered with materialism and consumerism. what I'm trying to show you how they used the nuclear family model to sell it
church and family was the community in America right
after the 60s, it was all individualized with the evaporation of Christianity
Church and family was just a parody of a community in America
communities got destroyed by white flight
And with the Satanic Panic happening in late 80s you can't say these things happened after the 60s.
that came after wards
if there was a community
people would've fought
not run away
that came after the civil rights
I'm not saying thats an American problem either
it's like that in a lot of other places
Their church community is a part of the problem. Catholicism ensured a parody of Christianity, letting it erode much quicker.
That's why Orthodox churches in Alaska still have a good community.
judeo-christian the term was literally a subversion
"Satanic Panic" was Middle America going WTF looking at their country.. its an obvious reaction to all the messed up stuff that was going on...
people wanted some order desperately
it is what happens when you advertise a complete freedom of thought