Message from @Kazimir Malevich

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2018-12-24 09:42:13 UTC  

But yeah, it was corrupted, just like everything Am*rica produced.

2018-12-24 09:44:12 UTC  

I guess I failed to see the appeals to ego behind it all, I only saw the family being a family. Man the provider and the woman a housewife. What I didn't see is that they also lived in a spacious house, had a good car, backyard pool as well as plentiful feasts.

2018-12-24 09:45:50 UTC  

a lesser character would chase the material dream

2018-12-24 09:48:25 UTC  

America is 99% lesser characters though.
Not to assume, but I didn't see anything about family, at least from the text excerpt you provided (which seems to be the original text that coined the phrase), which makes it almost egalitarian. What you said about the family values may be your wishful thinking to see this "American Dream" as something better than it is.

2018-12-24 09:49:15 UTC  

I'm not talking about how the scholars defined it, I'm talking about how it was advertised and presented to the regular people of the US as well as non-americans

2018-12-24 09:51:27 UTC  

>u can raise ur children in comfort and safety

2018-12-24 09:52:30 UTC  

do u see what I'm getting at

2018-12-24 09:52:57 UTC  

America paved the way for destruction of Nation States in Europe..
normalized multi ethnic multi Cultural societies in Western Europe, plus gave home to Russian Jews in their academia

2018-12-24 09:53:14 UTC  

all of this was imported to Europe eventually

2018-12-24 09:53:51 UTC  

even now the attempt with EU, is to create a United States of Europe.. a cultureless rootless global empire of capitalism

2018-12-24 09:55:13 UTC  

from my view it's an illegitimate country built on false principles

2018-12-24 09:55:16 UTC  

oh this vid also makes me realize how the boomers got played during the cold war.

2018-12-24 09:55:22 UTC  

Well James Adams is a freelance writer rather than a scholar. As for the regular people, you can see that the advertisements and products have reduced their society to materialism early on.

The artistic movement of Pop-Art, for instance, in late 1950s was a response exactly to the type of society America was becoming; a soulless, consumerist nation. If these ideals you present were ever in place, they weren't around untainted for long.

2018-12-24 09:56:05 UTC  

America ruined Christmas 😡

2018-12-24 09:56:14 UTC  

The undercurrent of soulless corporatism and mindless consumerism was always there, simply hidden by "the family values", which was an excuse for more consumption.

2018-12-24 09:56:34 UTC  

obviously the material and the ads are littered with materialism and consumerism. what I'm trying to show you how they used the nuclear family model to sell it

2018-12-24 09:57:04 UTC  

church and family was the community in America right

2018-12-24 09:57:07 UTC  

Oh yeah, without a doubt.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/526699840051085314/Z.png

2018-12-24 09:57:28 UTC  

after the 60s, it was all individualized with the evaporation of Christianity

2018-12-24 09:57:38 UTC  

Church and family was just a parody of a community in America

2018-12-24 09:57:59 UTC  

communities got destroyed by white flight

2018-12-24 09:58:14 UTC  

And with the Satanic Panic happening in late 80s you can't say these things happened after the 60s.

2018-12-24 09:58:17 UTC  

that came after wards

2018-12-24 09:58:21 UTC  

if there was a community

2018-12-24 09:58:29 UTC  

people would've fought

2018-12-24 09:58:32 UTC  

not run away

2018-12-24 09:58:38 UTC  

that came after the civil rights

2018-12-24 09:58:44 UTC  

I'm not saying thats an American problem either

2018-12-24 09:58:54 UTC  

it's like that in a lot of other places

2018-12-24 09:59:36 UTC  

Their church community is a part of the problem. Catholicism ensured a parody of Christianity, letting it erode much quicker.

2018-12-24 09:59:59 UTC  

That's why Orthodox churches in Alaska still have a good community.

2018-12-24 10:00:06 UTC  

judeo-christian the term was literally a subversion

2018-12-24 10:00:16 UTC  

"Satanic Panic" was Middle America going WTF looking at their country.. its an obvious reaction to all the messed up stuff that was going on...

people wanted some order desperately

2018-12-24 10:00:45 UTC  

it is what happens when you advertise a complete freedom of thought

2018-12-24 10:01:22 UTC  

Satanic Panic was some cucks listening to Sabaton and saying it's the Satan's music. It was a parody of all that Christianity stood for, turning the Christian movement into a caricature @AdorableStormtrooper

2018-12-24 10:01:46 UTC  

tbh a lot of metal bands are indeed satanists

2018-12-24 10:01:59 UTC  

they were not wrong to panic

2018-12-24 10:02:11 UTC  

as well as the people that listen to it

2018-12-24 10:02:22 UTC  

just thinking about what was going on at that time..80s music, all the hippie stuff, Miscegenation stuff, Abortion began to be legalized, the pill had gone mainstream, drugs, disco culture, raves, and all of this being normalized in celebrity culture

2018-12-24 10:02:39 UTC  

these were massive changes with massive consequences