because you have elements of social ownership and private ownership in Fascism

similar to social democracy

centrist ideology

certain camps are more far left than others

also
NAZBOL

but again, if we use Storm's definition, Fascism would be far-left from any ancient society's perspective

like

automatically

by definition

its insane

you don't know my definition because you didn't even read

sure. because the economy/technology isn't as advanced at that period in time

```@Xinyue you don't just compare the positions themselves, you see where they're coming from..
a leftist and a right winger can come to the same conclusion from completely different angle and with your analysis you'll be sitting confused who's the Lefty who's the Righty
you don't just look at the position itself, you look at where they're coming from and the development of that thought.```

your argument is bad and you should feel bad @AdorableStormtrooper

lol

Hitler comes from a certain school of thought and you look at it's development and that's how you determining if it's left or right, you don't just look at the positions themselves, because left and right can hold the same positions coming from a completely different place.

dude you continue to fail to realise that your postmodernist hypersubjectivist position doesn't translate into a coherent fucking thought process 😄

oh my god

@Xinyue nice memes bro 👍

if you do *not* define left and right in social ownership vs. private ownership terms, you will in the end lose any meaning the terms had. even in the original french revolution sense, it was always about the expansion of commons vs. the aristocracy trying to hold back any sweeping expansion of the commons/public domain, like even before socialism it had this *general meaning*

and socialism developed directly from the left-wing position

> person who says you can track the development of left an right thought and determine where a person is coming from from a left or right view.. *Post Modernist*

> Person who thinks social positions left and right take are subjective and completely arbitrary, *not Post Modernist*

nice memes bro @Xinyue

🤔

that...literally doesn't make any sense

it doesn't connect to the discussion

your trolling

nicely done

👒

Literally not. You implied that left and right are *not* first and foremost economic categories of ownership and productive relations. I argued they are.

What is my argument?

Dude you don't make a coherent one

Ok, what is my incoherent argument?

This is the most autistic conversation ever

All I got from you was some vague talk about social issues

which doesn't connect to anything

anyway

I'm done

jfc

I can't do this 😄

lmao