Plus the fact that slavery has been abolished for over a century and a half

Lol

Segregation is not justification either, they should not need access to white spaces and white people to achieve similar results if they have similar potential

It's not `schpiel`, there's a difference between starting from nothing and literally being discriminated against completely (3/5s a man, etc) while I personally believe this has little relevance in the modern day and everyone in a free and fair society is able to achieve insofar as they are motivated, I do not think that can be ignored, In the context of the United States I think that the destruction of the family unit is responsible for the failure of the African-American community to develop and grow

I firmly believe that if a stable family unit were widespread in those communities, and a push to change the culture were made, it would not be the way it is today within a few decades

The only living generation that has suffered from state sponsored discrimination are the black boomers that live/lived in the south

But muh police brutality

Exactly, hence why I said that in the present day the reason behind any failure to grow has been largely due to the destruction of the family unit

That is my opinion, anyway

Horseshit, they wouldn't need whites to acknowledge them if they were as capable

They could build their own wealth

their own communities

I don't mean to sound rude, but a lot of what you say seems to be 'horseshit', you make biased generalizations without any proof or backing whatsoever, who says black people need white people to acknowledge them?

Whites didn't need acknowledgement from blacks to build their wealth and their communities

Biased generalizations with no proof ot backing?

You did

You're the one that said it

When did I say that black people need to be acknowledged by the white race in order to succeed?

You said that's why they're poor

I don't think so ...

Unless you seriously misinterpreted something I said

Because they couldn't climb the ladder to wealth without whites to approve of it

I didn't say that at all

they were discriminated against

and thats why they're poor

I also said that has little relevance in the modern day and that ```
I firmly believe that if a stable family unit were widespread in those communities, and a push to change the culture were made, it would not be the way it is today within a few decades```

The fat controller laughed "you are wrong"

why can't they maintain stable family units tho, who is going to give them the stable family units too?
who's going to pay for the education on how to keep stable family units that they're gonna fuckin brush off because they don't give a shit?

Yall really out here calling me gay because I referenced a badass reaction meme? 🆗

Anyway, Huff-

we already know, white people are gonna have to fix their problems for them, or at least, attempt too

Do you remember when I outlined the 'culture of poverty' by Oscar Lewis?

yes, I remember when you cited the shapeshifter

Ignoring that stupid remark, one of the traits he outlined as being present and indicators of the culture of poverty were men as occasional contributors, fathers of many children, having 'bling' ornaments, being 'sharp dressers' (probably in the modern day buying all that brand name shit while being poor?) and women being the centre of the household due to the absence of and marginalization of men in that sphere

I don't think that in the present state the African American community can just fix itself, obviously someone from outside is going to have to fix the problem, and that is why I embrace civic nationalism

"stupid remark"

You said 'the shapeshifter' so yes, stupid remark

In a free and fair society, with high levels of state transparency and strong institutions, there is no reason to blame your failure on 'the system', meritocracy renders that excuse totally invalid; let everyone have equal opportunity and let everyone become part of a new and all-encompassing culture; a culture of loving your countrymen and loving your land, grow the land of your ancestors and harvest her fruits, become an innovator, solve your own problems, have a family and do not live outside your means, take care of the environment and do not let uncontrolled waves of people who do not share these values enter your country

the guy was a son of a rabbi, he came up with something subversive and changed his name to appear white

he's a shapeshifter

He was Jewish, so what? His explanations of adaptations to poverty are literally plain to see