Message from @Dylan

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2018-12-28 01:42:08 UTC  

Plus the fact that slavery has been abolished for over a century and a half

2018-12-28 01:42:08 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-28 01:42:28 UTC  

Segregation is not justification either, they should not need access to white spaces and white people to achieve similar results if they have similar potential

2018-12-28 01:43:08 UTC  

It's not `schpiel`, there's a difference between starting from nothing and literally being discriminated against completely (3/5s a man, etc) while I personally believe this has little relevance in the modern day and everyone in a free and fair society is able to achieve insofar as they are motivated, I do not think that can be ignored, In the context of the United States I think that the destruction of the family unit is responsible for the failure of the African-American community to develop and grow

2018-12-28 01:43:37 UTC  

I firmly believe that if a stable family unit were widespread in those communities, and a push to change the culture were made, it would not be the way it is today within a few decades

2018-12-28 01:45:18 UTC  

The only living generation that has suffered from state sponsored discrimination are the black boomers that live/lived in the south

2018-12-28 01:45:48 UTC  

Exactly, hence why I said that in the present day the reason behind any failure to grow has been largely due to the destruction of the family unit

2018-12-28 01:46:21 UTC  

That is my opinion, anyway

2018-12-28 01:46:53 UTC  

Horseshit, they wouldn't need whites to acknowledge them if they were as capable

2018-12-28 01:47:03 UTC  

They could build their own wealth

2018-12-28 01:47:07 UTC  

their own communities

2018-12-28 01:47:29 UTC  

I don't mean to sound rude, but a lot of what you say seems to be 'horseshit', you make biased generalizations without any proof or backing whatsoever, who says black people need white people to acknowledge them?

2018-12-28 01:47:34 UTC  

Whites didn't need acknowledgement from blacks to build their wealth and their communities

2018-12-28 01:47:49 UTC  

Biased generalizations with no proof ot backing?

2018-12-28 01:47:51 UTC  

You did

2018-12-28 01:47:56 UTC  

You're the one that said it

2018-12-28 01:48:06 UTC  

When did I say that black people need to be acknowledged by the white race in order to succeed?

2018-12-28 01:48:10 UTC  

You said that's why they're poor

2018-12-28 01:48:30 UTC  

I don't think so ...

2018-12-28 01:48:39 UTC  

Unless you seriously misinterpreted something I said

2018-12-28 01:48:39 UTC  

Because they couldn't climb the ladder to wealth without whites to approve of it

2018-12-28 01:48:45 UTC  

I didn't say that at all

2018-12-28 01:48:51 UTC  

they were discriminated against

2018-12-28 01:48:56 UTC  

and thats why they're poor

2018-12-28 01:49:15 UTC  

I also said that has little relevance in the modern day and that ```
I firmly believe that if a stable family unit were widespread in those communities, and a push to change the culture were made, it would not be the way it is today within a few decades```

2018-12-28 01:49:48 UTC  

The fat controller laughed "you are wrong"

2018-12-28 01:50:38 UTC  

why can't they maintain stable family units tho, who is going to give them the stable family units too?
who's going to pay for the education on how to keep stable family units that they're gonna fuckin brush off because they don't give a shit?

2018-12-28 01:51:21 UTC  

Yall really out here calling me gay because I referenced a badass reaction meme? πŸ†—

2018-12-28 01:51:25 UTC  

Anyway, Huff-

2018-12-28 01:51:35 UTC  

we already know, white people are gonna have to fix their problems for them, or at least, attempt too

2018-12-28 01:51:47 UTC  

Do you remember when I outlined the 'culture of poverty' by Oscar Lewis?

2018-12-28 01:52:03 UTC  

yes, I remember when you cited the shapeshifter

2018-12-28 01:53:18 UTC  

Ignoring that stupid remark, one of the traits he outlined as being present and indicators of the culture of poverty were men as occasional contributors, fathers of many children, having 'bling' ornaments, being 'sharp dressers' (probably in the modern day buying all that brand name shit while being poor?) and women being the centre of the household due to the absence of and marginalization of men in that sphere

2018-12-28 01:53:53 UTC  

I don't think that in the present state the African American community can just fix itself, obviously someone from outside is going to have to fix the problem, and that is why I embrace civic nationalism

2018-12-28 01:54:55 UTC  

"stupid remark"

2018-12-28 01:55:13 UTC  

You said 'the shapeshifter' so yes, stupid remark

2018-12-28 01:55:51 UTC  

In a free and fair society, with high levels of state transparency and strong institutions, there is no reason to blame your failure on 'the system', meritocracy renders that excuse totally invalid; let everyone have equal opportunity and let everyone become part of a new and all-encompassing culture; a culture of loving your countrymen and loving your land, grow the land of your ancestors and harvest her fruits, become an innovator, solve your own problems, have a family and do not live outside your means, take care of the environment and do not let uncontrolled waves of people who do not share these values enter your country

2018-12-28 01:56:26 UTC  

the guy was a son of a rabbi, he came up with something subversive and changed his name to appear white

2018-12-28 01:56:36 UTC  

he's a shapeshifter

2018-12-28 01:57:04 UTC  

He was Jewish, so what? His explanations of adaptations to poverty are literally plain to see