Message from @Huff
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It's not about being poor, it's about adaptations to poverty becoming a self-perpetuated culture which is then idealized and divinized ***because of*** the lack of any other culture
Why don't poor whites or poor asians do the same thing
because of the fact that they have their own indigenous cultures
I already said that black people in the Americas basically have no culture other than the 'culture of poverty' which is claimed as their own, idealized and becomes something to take pride in hence making it even worse imo
Why are they poor in the first place
@communists
Don't give the slavery schpiel either, plenty of other groups in the US started from nothing
Plus the fact that slavery has been abolished for over a century and a half
Lol
Segregation is not justification either, they should not need access to white spaces and white people to achieve similar results if they have similar potential
It's not `schpiel`, there's a difference between starting from nothing and literally being discriminated against completely (3/5s a man, etc) while I personally believe this has little relevance in the modern day and everyone in a free and fair society is able to achieve insofar as they are motivated, I do not think that can be ignored, In the context of the United States I think that the destruction of the family unit is responsible for the failure of the African-American community to develop and grow
I firmly believe that if a stable family unit were widespread in those communities, and a push to change the culture were made, it would not be the way it is today within a few decades
The only living generation that has suffered from state sponsored discrimination are the black boomers that live/lived in the south
But muh police brutality
Exactly, hence why I said that in the present day the reason behind any failure to grow has been largely due to the destruction of the family unit
That is my opinion, anyway
Horseshit, they wouldn't need whites to acknowledge them if they were as capable
They could build their own wealth
their own communities
I don't mean to sound rude, but a lot of what you say seems to be 'horseshit', you make biased generalizations without any proof or backing whatsoever, who says black people need white people to acknowledge them?
Biased generalizations with no proof ot backing?
You did
You're the one that said it
When did I say that black people need to be acknowledged by the white race in order to succeed?
You said that's why they're poor
I don't think so ...
Unless you seriously misinterpreted something I said
Because they couldn't climb the ladder to wealth without whites to approve of it
I didn't say that at all
they were discriminated against
and thats why they're poor
I also said that has little relevance in the modern day and that ```
I firmly believe that if a stable family unit were widespread in those communities, and a push to change the culture were made, it would not be the way it is today within a few decades```
The fat controller laughed "you are wrong"
why can't they maintain stable family units tho, who is going to give them the stable family units too?
who's going to pay for the education on how to keep stable family units that they're gonna fuckin brush off because they don't give a shit?
Yall really out here calling me gay because I referenced a badass reaction meme? π
Anyway, Huff-
we already know, white people are gonna have to fix their problems for them, or at least, attempt too
Do you remember when I outlined the 'culture of poverty' by Oscar Lewis?
yes, I remember when you cited the shapeshifter
Ignoring that stupid remark, one of the traits he outlined as being present and indicators of the culture of poverty were men as occasional contributors, fathers of many children, having 'bling' ornaments, being 'sharp dressers' (probably in the modern day buying all that brand name shit while being poor?) and women being the centre of the household due to the absence of and marginalization of men in that sphere