Message from @CrowGoCaw

Discord ID: 528385606313574411


2018-12-29 01:32:50 UTC  

This is amazing

2018-12-29 01:32:56 UTC  

Catholic > Protestant

2018-12-29 01:33:02 UTC  

i am both enraged and humored by this entire discussion

2018-12-29 01:33:11 UTC  

thats a feat.

2018-12-29 01:33:37 UTC  

yh

2018-12-29 01:33:45 UTC  

Xinyue

2018-12-29 01:33:46 UTC  

Please

2018-12-29 01:33:48 UTC  

answer me

2018-12-29 01:33:53 UTC  

pls

2018-12-29 01:33:57 UTC  

Of all the possible worldviews that one could assume, adopt, follow, it is *this?* For what reason? For what possible end would a person still adhere to the abrahamic creed? Why? There's no reason. Other than sentimental bullshit.

2018-12-29 01:33:59 UTC  

answer my simple question

2018-12-29 01:34:19 UTC  

@Ten-Speed_Bicycle shutup libtard

2018-12-29 01:34:28 UTC  

You could easily formulate a superior system by yourself Crow if you put an effort to it

2018-12-29 01:34:29 UTC  

Read the book of Mormon

2018-12-29 01:34:33 UTC  

😤

2018-12-29 01:34:59 UTC  

@Xinyue The amount of ignorance in that statement is insane lets try this for anything secular and you'll sound ridiculous to yourself

2018-12-29 01:35:20 UTC  

"Why still adhere to this secular creed? Why? there's no other reason other than empirical bullshit"

2018-12-29 01:35:26 UTC  

You continue to compare Christianity to things that aren't comparable to christianity

2018-12-29 01:35:39 UTC  

"Secular creed" deals with people, with society, with relations that are observable

2018-12-29 01:35:43 UTC  

Christianity mostly doesn't

2018-12-29 01:35:45 UTC  

You're right i shouldn't compare inferior ideologies to christianity

2018-12-29 01:36:17 UTC  

if your measurable of "superior" is that something is unobservable, unprovable, unseeable and in any capacity non-confirmable, you aren't a very sharp tool in the shed are you

2018-12-29 01:36:35 UTC  

that could justify any number of thought systems

2018-12-29 01:36:38 UTC  

is observable really a good argument?

2018-12-29 01:36:38 UTC  

or belief systems rather

2018-12-29 01:36:47 UTC  

plenty of batshit crazy people hallucinate

2018-12-29 01:37:16 UTC  

Well if you by definition cannot observe a given thing, and never can, no matter what, even in cases where you should be able to, then yes its a pretty bad standard on part of the faith

2018-12-29 01:37:55 UTC  

No it isn't

2018-12-29 01:38:15 UTC  

we have no way to observe the entire universe but we sure as hell know it exists

2018-12-29 01:38:35 UTC  

but for all we really know we could be in a giant snowglobe

2018-12-29 01:38:45 UTC  

@Spookaswa, are u catholic?

2018-12-29 01:38:47 UTC  

> plenty of batshit crazy people hallucinate

ok then maybe you should simply conclude that all sensory perception is invalid (including the parts where you read the bible and became convinced that you are christian, or indeed the memories of you doing this) and embrace some form of epistemological solispsism

of course you don't do this, because the argument you put forward here isn't "le big think" that you pretend it is and is in fact entirely self-defeating but you apparently don't catch on this

2018-12-29 01:39:30 UTC  

sensory perception is valid it just isn't rational or follows your silly arbitrary empiricism

2018-12-29 01:39:42 UTC  

i'm playing with your boundaries not mine

2018-12-29 01:40:38 UTC  

nothing in my sensory perception validates Christian God. It does validate the existence of objective reality (which always defeats hard ontological solipsism) because it exists independent of my will or wishes, fears or dreams (it merely is), but nothing in this foundation of objective reality *confirms god* - what it does is confirm *materialism*

2018-12-29 01:41:50 UTC  

(that is God outside of the universe, as a originator of it; naturalistic pantheism, the universe *itself* as god is pretty fucking dank)

2018-12-29 01:42:15 UTC  

Except it doesn't, sensory perception can and has been tricked and is definitely fallible and for everything you say isn't sensory i can say it is due to you having no true knowledge on someone else's anecdote or senses

2018-12-29 01:42:58 UTC  

Sensory perception (or perception in general) doesn't ever validate God; but it does always validate objective reality, that is, something existing outside your will and agency

2018-12-29 01:43:37 UTC  

There you go again

2018-12-29 01:43:42 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/528387607231594527/gnome.mp4

2018-12-29 01:43:53 UTC  

You have a god it just happens that its name isn't yahweh its your senses