Message from @Grimm0175

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2019-01-03 04:50:15 UTC  

they didn't diversify the means of production

2019-01-03 04:50:16 UTC  

and 2

2019-01-03 04:50:25 UTC  

yes they did seize some meanings of production

2019-01-03 04:50:33 UTC  

as i said they expropiated plenty of properties

2019-01-03 04:50:45 UTC  

farms, companies, airlines, etc

2019-01-03 04:51:06 UTC  

They didn't control the means of production to begin with. And this was the *number one problem* with their gradualist, reformist praxis. They should've transformed the economy much quicker. They should've gone for full autonomy approach, or autarkic economic policy for the duration of the coming crisis.

2019-01-03 04:51:13 UTC  

they did

2019-01-03 04:51:18 UTC  

they did it

2019-01-03 04:51:20 UTC  

They didn't

2019-01-03 04:51:20 UTC  

no

2019-01-03 04:51:23 UTC  

they really didn't

2019-01-03 04:51:28 UTC  

Most of the Properties are State owned

2019-01-03 04:51:32 UTC  

most of the economy remained in the hands of the capitalists

2019-01-03 04:51:33 UTC  

the Private Sector is Small

2019-01-03 04:51:33 UTC  

false

2019-01-03 04:51:40 UTC  

that is actually false

2019-01-03 04:51:44 UTC  

like, shockingly false

2019-01-03 04:51:44 UTC  

proof your argument

2019-01-03 04:51:52 UTC  

tell me if its false

2019-01-03 04:51:59 UTC  

then why many companies closed and left the country?

2019-01-03 04:52:10 UTC  

why there's few companies investing in Venezuela?

2019-01-03 04:52:30 UTC  

you have not seen it pertinent to prove anything to me (so far I'm the only one who has bothered with economic data); but yes, even the Fox News made a piece on this

https://www.foxnews.com/world/what-socialism-private-sector-still-dominates-venezuelan-economy-despite-chavez-crusade

2019-01-03 04:52:41 UTC  

that's not true

2019-01-03 04:52:44 UTC  

it is true

2019-01-03 04:52:50 UTC  

now its your turn to show something for your claim

2019-01-03 04:53:05 UTC  

That Article is from 2010

2019-01-03 04:53:15 UTC  

very well - show me fresh information

2019-01-03 04:53:17 UTC  

2010 was the definite year when Chávez had a lot of Profit

2019-01-03 04:53:26 UTC  

show me data

2019-01-03 04:53:28 UTC  

or something

2019-01-03 04:53:31 UTC  

news, article, whatever

2019-01-03 04:53:39 UTC  

he had a lot of earnings due to the Oil prices wich they were at the time on 100$

2019-01-03 04:53:41 UTC  

then I can check upon the claims

2019-01-03 04:53:43 UTC  

each barrel

2019-01-03 04:53:48 UTC  

*links, mate*

2019-01-03 04:54:23 UTC  

I don't read spanish...

2019-01-03 04:54:29 UTC  

"Kimberly Clark Demands Venezuela by expropiation of the enterprise in 2016"

2019-01-03 04:54:34 UTC  

the article was written the past year

2019-01-03 04:54:49 UTC  

what does that even say about the property-relations of the economy on the macro-scale? nothing