Message from @Grimm0175
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if we protest, the National Guards will repress Us but not only that
So? You fight them.
Paramilitary groups and Hidden Snipers will start kill the protesters
170 young guys died 2 years ago because of the protests
Then you set fire to the buildings
it is easy to say it to be honest but is really hard
They can't see you through the smoke, and have to deal with the problem. It's better to burn it all than let it be used against you
in fact we could overtrow Maduro and his gabinet 2 years ago
but let me explain why this protests didn't work and they have NO POINT
Because a protest is not a revolution
i don't even participate in them because i know there's no point at them, let me explain
The politicians here are cowards, the same old faces, the same idiology etc
many dissident socialists and Marxists in Venezuela are also openly attacking Maduro and saying that, under his administration, the country is sliding towards Fascism and any progress towards Socialism is being stagnated. Like the notion that Venezuela is socialist is fucking ridiculous.
The economy is not planned like it was in USSR. There is no network of councils/soviets, official and workers' alike, that regulate and execute production directives. The tropes of socialism are not present in Venezuela, I don't know where the notion that its a socialist economy comes from.
they don't have BALLS also
@Xinyue They're just trying to blame him as a person, instead of the policies that led to him in the first place.
ah yes, nobody here understands what socialism means apparently. none. fucking great
@Grimm0175 Then stand up and lead them like sheep.
Hello!
the thing is that in 2014 this huge protests started and the politicians in the coalition of MUD (Democratic Table Bureau) that convoked them, so people were participating, they started like at 8am
then it's 2pm and this politicians says "Everybody go home and protests from your houses at 8pm"
socialism isn't some vague fucking concept revolving around "muh welfare state", "muh social programs" or this and that common talking point. its not *kinda public-regulated economy,* its a *total and complete worker ownership and direction of the economy, either directly or via elected mediators,* and exists ***in the absence of the capitalist class and capitalist property relation***
Venezuela is not socialist. Its not. Its at best a mixed economy.
the same thing happened in 2017
even Maduro enjoys capitalism
Hitler wasn't a socialist
and he does deals with Narcos
anyway so @A_Wizard lead my people? it's really hard to be honest and here's my annother point
Yeah, it's hard, but you can do it.
Yes, Hitler wasn't a socialist
Venezuelans are dessesperate, and some of them are divided, they also believe in the first thing they see
its very clear, even by his own admission
@Xinyue Hitler was the Avatar of Vishnu, the man against time who would prepare the way for Lord Kalki's return to scourge you commies from the earth.
but how divided they are? well... some says things like "Look an Infiltrated G-2 CUBAN AGENT", naaaaah this is false and a big ETC
so not a socialist. great. I hate the fact that he posed himself as such
and then the fight starts and so on
Grim, they're desperate, and in need of a leader.