Message from @Grimm0175

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2019-01-03 05:17:07 UTC  

if we protest, the National Guards will repress Us but not only that

2019-01-03 05:17:14 UTC  

So? You fight them.

2019-01-03 05:17:21 UTC  

Paramilitary groups and Hidden Snipers will start kill the protesters

2019-01-03 05:17:33 UTC  

170 young guys died 2 years ago because of the protests

2019-01-03 05:17:33 UTC  

Then you set fire to the buildings

2019-01-03 05:17:46 UTC  

it is easy to say it to be honest but is really hard

2019-01-03 05:18:00 UTC  

They can't see you through the smoke, and have to deal with the problem. It's better to burn it all than let it be used against you

2019-01-03 05:18:13 UTC  

in fact we could overtrow Maduro and his gabinet 2 years ago

2019-01-03 05:18:25 UTC  

but let me explain why this protests didn't work and they have NO POINT

2019-01-03 05:18:36 UTC  

Because a protest is not a revolution

2019-01-03 05:18:40 UTC  

i don't even participate in them because i know there's no point at them, let me explain

2019-01-03 05:18:57 UTC  

The politicians here are cowards, the same old faces, the same idiology etc

2019-01-03 05:19:00 UTC  

many dissident socialists and Marxists in Venezuela are also openly attacking Maduro and saying that, under his administration, the country is sliding towards Fascism and any progress towards Socialism is being stagnated. Like the notion that Venezuela is socialist is fucking ridiculous.

The economy is not planned like it was in USSR. There is no network of councils/soviets, official and workers' alike, that regulate and execute production directives. The tropes of socialism are not present in Venezuela, I don't know where the notion that its a socialist economy comes from.

2019-01-03 05:19:09 UTC  

they don't have BALLS also

2019-01-03 05:19:30 UTC  

2019-01-03 05:19:35 UTC  

@Xinyue They're just trying to blame him as a person, instead of the policies that led to him in the first place.

2019-01-03 05:19:57 UTC  

ah yes, nobody here understands what socialism means apparently. none. fucking great

2019-01-03 05:20:01 UTC  

@Grimm0175 Then stand up and lead them like sheep.

2019-01-03 05:20:13 UTC  

Hello!

2019-01-03 05:20:30 UTC  

the thing is that in 2014 this huge protests started and the politicians in the coalition of MUD (Democratic Table Bureau) that convoked them, so people were participating, they started like at 8am

2019-01-03 05:20:45 UTC  

and then the hours passed, the tear gass, etc you know typical

2019-01-03 05:21:19 UTC  

then it's 2pm and this politicians says "Everybody go home and protests from your houses at 8pm"

2019-01-03 05:21:29 UTC  

socialism isn't some vague fucking concept revolving around "muh welfare state", "muh social programs" or this and that common talking point. its not *kinda public-regulated economy,* its a *total and complete worker ownership and direction of the economy, either directly or via elected mediators,* and exists ***in the absence of the capitalist class and capitalist property relation***

Venezuela is not socialist. Its not. Its at best a mixed economy.

2019-01-03 05:21:30 UTC  

the same thing happened in 2017

2019-01-03 05:21:40 UTC  

@Xinyue just accept your idiology doens't work

2019-01-03 05:21:42 UTC  

@Xinyue Socialism

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/530254407615381505/b43059b47c48da1d9aa77dafc53463060423cb75c7d30cd33e8e3af0d0523d14.jpg

2019-01-03 05:21:47 UTC  

even Maduro enjoys capitalism

2019-01-03 05:21:52 UTC  

Hitler wasn't a socialist

2019-01-03 05:21:53 UTC  

2019-01-03 05:21:55 UTC  

and he does deals with Narcos

2019-01-03 05:22:05 UTC  

read before you comment @Xinyue 😛 mneh

2019-01-03 05:22:26 UTC  

anyway so @A_Wizard lead my people? it's really hard to be honest and here's my annother point

2019-01-03 05:22:42 UTC  

Yeah, it's hard, but you can do it.

2019-01-03 05:22:42 UTC  

Yes, Hitler wasn't a socialist

2019-01-03 05:22:48 UTC  

Venezuelans are dessesperate, and some of them are divided, they also believe in the first thing they see

2019-01-03 05:22:49 UTC  

its very clear, even by his own admission

2019-01-03 05:23:08 UTC  

@Xinyue Hitler was the Avatar of Vishnu, the man against time who would prepare the way for Lord Kalki's return to scourge you commies from the earth.

2019-01-03 05:23:20 UTC  

but how divided they are? well... some says things like "Look an Infiltrated G-2 CUBAN AGENT", naaaaah this is false and a big ETC

2019-01-03 05:23:31 UTC  

so not a socialist. great. I hate the fact that he posed himself as such

2019-01-03 05:23:33 UTC  

and then the fight starts and so on

2019-01-03 05:23:51 UTC  

Grim, they're desperate, and in need of a leader.