Message from @CronoSaturn

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2019-01-12 18:02:40 UTC  

I have one city.

2019-01-12 18:03:08 UTC  

hand it over willingly

2019-01-12 18:03:21 UTC  

Wha-?

2019-01-12 18:03:23 UTC  

if you actually look at history david cultures that tolerate and allow the dominant culture to be questioned result in the culture being more strongly established

2019-01-12 18:05:12 UTC  

clearly allowing unlimited criticism of Christianity has resulted in it's stronger establishment in Sweden and England while Islam withers away to Atheism in an Authoritarian Saudi Arabia.

2019-01-12 18:05:42 UTC  

how well does islam spread in the western world

2019-01-12 18:06:18 UTC  

changing the topic, i talked about dominant culture as did you

2019-01-12 18:06:51 UTC  

meanwhile saudi arabia seems to find it necessary to go to extreme and expensive measures to retain, only retain mind you, their understanding of islam as predominant in society

2019-01-12 18:07:18 UTC  

and the dominant culture globally is western culture

2019-01-12 18:07:31 UTC  

which is no culture at all

2019-01-12 18:07:50 UTC  

lol k

2019-01-12 18:08:10 UTC  

True. Western Culture is pretty... Gone.

2019-01-12 18:08:50 UTC  

how you figure that, doc?

2019-01-12 18:09:22 UTC  

What is Western Culture?

2019-01-12 18:09:38 UTC  

Starbucks, I guess.

2019-01-12 18:10:22 UTC  

liberal democracy, the scientific method, the philosophical legacy of the hellenists, enlightenment thinkers....

2019-01-12 18:10:48 UTC  

and yes, starbucks also

2019-01-12 18:11:00 UTC  

pop culture is also culture

2019-01-12 18:11:11 UTC  

high and low culture are both things

2019-01-12 18:12:28 UTC  

pop culture is the sewer

2019-01-12 18:12:36 UTC  

still culture mang

2019-01-12 18:12:40 UTC  

If you want to claim scientific method as part of a *Western Culture* fair enough I guess, but that has been under assault for a long time in the academia in favor of things like "lived experiences"

2019-01-12 18:12:45 UTC  

Its an insult to real culture

2019-01-12 18:12:56 UTC  

Liberal Democracy is withering away as we speak..

2019-01-12 18:13:05 UTC  

good

2019-01-12 18:13:19 UTC  

Rest of it that you mentioned is imprecise and contradictory in itself.

2019-01-12 18:13:39 UTC  

Liberal "democracy" isn't so democratic

2019-01-12 18:13:55 UTC  

and neither is it Liberal any longer

2019-01-12 18:13:57 UTC  

(((democracy)))

2019-01-12 18:14:19 UTC  

doesnt seem to be. the global hegemon is america and its pretty secure. its challengers? not so much. also "lived experience" might be talked about but i dont see it being used in the field by engineers

2019-01-12 18:14:44 UTC  

allowing criticism reinforces its adoption and allows it to adapt

2019-01-12 18:15:12 UTC  

scientific method isn't applicable any longer to a lot of subjects that are labeled Science is my point.

2019-01-12 18:15:17 UTC  

Christianity is almost dead thanks to that

2019-01-12 18:15:35 UTC  

the king is dead, long live the king

2019-01-12 18:15:37 UTC  

and there is a world outside of America so that is a meek point and an escape.

2019-01-12 18:15:51 UTC  

but america dominates that world

2019-01-12 18:15:53 UTC  

all round the world

2019-01-12 18:16:01 UTC  

its the same story

2019-01-12 18:16:21 UTC  

the globe bows to the standard america sets, not visa versa

2019-01-12 18:16:37 UTC  

no it doesn't..?

2019-01-12 18:16:43 UTC  

Islam has a strong base because its not allowed to be criticized