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They do frequently when they believe it is sexist, which means when the woman doesn't get a huge payout
@Krille P.#9570 how does that follow?
there has to be some pretty substantial argumentation
If the individuals agreed to a legally binding contract how could a judge simply throw it out? That's tyrannical
it has to be established why the assumed conditions of the prenup are invalid, a judge cant just say hocus pocus your prenup is gone
Yet they do all the time
Young men are being trained by the way society operates that they are better off never marrying
im not aware of the stats but lets remember that in america alone theres, what, 300million people? something doesnt need to be common to happen all the time
Getting married is a huge liability to them and could spell total financial ruin.
and while divorce rates in america last time i checked is edging 50% in australia its 30%
50% divorce rate is ABYSMAL.
```i dont think keeping a family together who actively hates and is destroying itself is a winning project. I agree that the way divorce is handled could be improved, i agree people could seek more meaningful relationships, im not saying our current position isnt without challenges, but i do believe its the best alternative currently available```
the assumption that all or even most divorces are born out of situation where husband and wife actively hate each other 24/7 in ways that are completely irreconcilable in the future is unproven.
Flip a coin, if tails you're a slave
It's not really a surprise that men have said fuck that
i agree snake but clearly its a tractable problem if analogous countries have a 20% difference
also americas marriage rates are very high actually
which might be a contributing factor
The problem is that anyone can defend this twisted system. Anyone of moral character ought to demand that reform occur
It is indefensible what is accepted as good
@Gerçek Well that was your concern with when asked to define decay.
and i think that process is in the works. remember though a policy doesnt need to be good for it to be good policy, just less bad then the alternatives
currently we are developing improvements, but i stress, developing
they dont exist as of yet
Think about the long term ramifications of this: each generation the most intelligent men will marry less and have less children to avoid financial ruin. Therefore, a greater percentage of children will be born to unintelligent fathers and single mothers
What we're effectively doing is removing fathers from the family
This isn't rocket science: ban all forms of alimony and child support. In the event of a divorce if you gain custody, you pay for the kid's expenses by yourself.
slippery slope fallacy mang, i think we accept that there is impetus for change, its unreasonable to expect that the rates of divorce would continue when again theres other nations where its much lower
If you can't afford to pay, you shouldn't get custody
@Krille P. I'm saying allowing gays to adopt given their abysmal marriage rates and divorce rates on average, given that they live Promiscuous lifestyles.. how does it appear to you as a solution to have kids be raised by such people?
The rate of divorce may decrease, but only because people will marry less
also i dont think alimony and child support in and of itself is an issue but i agree, custody and visitation reform should be tackled
How do you not think its an issue that you can be divorced at any time for any reason and because you're a man you will be forced to pay your ex wife by the state for the rest of your life?
Have you truly accepted this ridiculous situation as normal?
Well, the Greek faggots obviously managed since it is viewed as an example of high culture.
And no political party even cares enough to address this of course, they're all too busy focusing on censoring "hate speech"
snake, chill, i said reform should happen
im clearly not accepting it
But it won't, that's the point
@Krille P. I'm no defender of Heathen Culture but as I said, some of the men might have engaged in Degenerate behaviors outside the house, but they settled down and built families, had kids and raised them with their Wives.
also your wrong that no political party is talking about it, certainly its not a headline issue but its a present one
There is no mechanism to achieving it and currently the majority think this is normal and good